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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42932

WallyWorld wrote:
Whats the protection on the Bobcats pick? Top 16? I think we are going to miss out on it which sucks huge ass. But then again, maybe not, I dont see firsts having as much value given the guaranteed salaries required. In lieu of free agency, I cant imagine cap sensitive teams really WANTING firsts as much this draft. So, blessing in disguise?


If the Wolves pick 3rd or 4th, who do we take? Johnson? Cousins? Favors? Whiteside?


Their pick is Top TWELVE protected for this draft. It keeps going down each year after.

As for the 3rd pick, if that happens it will be a monumental blow to this organization. I guess take any of those above 4 guys, but man, that would REALLY SUCK.
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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42935

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Getting the 3rd or 4th pick is not an option. We have to get Wall or Turner (I'll even be disappointed if we *only* get Turner and not Wall)

But anyways, I'd probably take Favors. We can't take Whiteside with our top pick, he's too much of a risk. But if he were still there in the 7-10 range I'd definitely try to trade up to get him.
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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42936

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roundhouse wrote:
Getting the 3rd or 4th pick is not an option. We have to get Wall or Turner (I'll even be disappointed if we *only* get Turner and not Wall)

But anyways, I'd probably take Favors. We can't take Whiteside with our top pick, he's too much of a risk. But if he were still there in the 7-10 range I'd definitely try to trade up to get him.


Yep..3rd or 4th pick is not an option. But, we have to be open to it. I'll be fine with just Turner and not Wall if that's how the dice is roll.

I agree with you on Whiteside too. He cannot be our top pick, but yep..7 to 10 range would be perfect. I don't know about Favors. He seems weak and soft to me. He seems like he would get push around a lot in the NBA. I'm not too high on him. I would take Wesley Johnson over him. If Johnson is gone...then.......hm.....we would be screwed.

Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42937

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WallyWorld wrote:
Whats the protection on the Bobcats pick? Top 16? I think we are going to miss out on it which sucks huge ass. But then again, maybe not, I dont see firsts having as much value given the guaranteed salaries required. In lieu of free agency, I cant imagine cap sensitive teams really WANTING firsts as much this draft. So, blessing in disguise?


If the Wolves pick 3rd or 4th, who do we take? Johnson? Cousins? Favors? Whiteside?


Their pick is Top TWELVE protected for this draft. It keeps going down each year after.

As for the 3rd pick, if that happens it will be a monumental blow to this organization. I guess take any of those above 4 guys, but man, that would REALLY SUCK.


I'm not sure if I should be routing for or against the Charlotte pick coming our way. It isn't possible to pick 3 1st rounders and get them all enough minutes to develop. I might be falling back to cheering for the Bobcats pick turning into the unlikely homerun ball like the Wolves pick has with the Clippers.
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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42938

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Favors is a guy that most of the draft world seems to think has an incredibly high upside. Obviously we’d prefer a center, but he has innate shot-blocking instincts and I read that the Georgia Tech coaches are claiming he has a 9’1" standing reach. Favors is a long, athletic big with the defensive ability to really help us.

I will be very happy if we land a spot in the top three on lottery night because that means we’re either getting Wall (sensational talent), Turner (very talented and our best fit), or Favors (high upside and a relatively good fit).

If we don’t land a spot in the top three I will still be happy, but only because of all the eastern philosophy I’ve been reading and not due to our talent draw. :]

Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42939

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Courtside wrote:
Favors is a guy that most of the draft world seems to think has an incredibly high upside. Obviously we’d prefer a center, but he has innate shot-blocking instincts and I read that the Georgia Tech coaches are claiming he has a 9’1" standing reach. Favors is a long, athletic big with the defensive ability to really help us.

I will be very happy if we land a spot in the top three on lottery night because that means we’re either getting Wall (sensational talent), Turner (very talented and our best fit), or Favors (high upside and a relatively good fit).

If we don’t land a spot in the top three I will still be happy, but only because of all the eastern philosophy I’ve been reading and not due to our talent draw. :]


While what you said may be true, he's a Power Forward listed at 6'9". That would make no sense for us. We need to land Wall or Turner.
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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42940

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SlimPickens wrote:
Courtside wrote:
Favors is a guy that most of the draft world seems to think has an incredibly high upside. Obviously we’d prefer a center, but he has innate shot-blocking instincts and I read that the Georgia Tech coaches are claiming he has a 9’1" standing reach. Favors is a long, athletic big with the defensive ability to really help us.

I will be very happy if we land a spot in the top three on lottery night because that means we’re either getting Wall (sensational talent), Turner (very talented and our best fit), or Favors (high upside and a relatively good fit).

If we don’t land a spot in the top three I will still be happy, but only because of all the eastern philosophy I’ve been reading and not due to our talent draw. :]


While what you said may be true, he's a Power Forward listed at 6'9". That would make no sense for us. We need to land Wall or Turner.


It makes perfect sense. Kahn himself said we're targeting a wing and an athletic big in this draft. DX has Favors listed at 6'10" and 246 lbs, and I already mentioned his reported reach. Should we draft him, I think it's a virtual certainty that Big Al is traded (if it isn't already).

Would I rather have Wall or Turner? Of course. But don't sleep on Favors. IMO, the big drop-off for us is at draft slot 4...

...assuming all of those three declare (fingers crossed).

Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42941

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Nice response. Assuming Al is traded, Favors makes more sense. I think when Kahn said we were in the market for an athletic big he meant a Center tho...but Favors wouldn't be the worst thing, I guess, to backup Love and develop. He definitely has the frame for the league, just needs to learn the game. In time.

As of right now almost every draft board has DeMarcus Cousins goin 3rd. I think I'd prefer Favors to Cousins. Cousins is a lot like Big Al in the way he needs the rock. He'll be a force in the league, but a headache as well.

It'd be very disappointing tho to not come away with Wall or Turner. We can all agree on that.
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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42942

Man, ugh. At three I'd take Favors and definitely 100% trade Al. We'd have to, or it would be the dumbest pick ever. Favors + whatever we get from Al might be ok, I guess.

#4 would be a death blow. I can't even consider the possibility of that happening.

And if we get #5, we might as well move to Vegas or Seattle.
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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42945

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SlimPickens wrote:

It'd be very disappointing tho to not come away with Wall or Turner. We can all agree on that.


Yep, how fantastic would it be to have Turner suited up next to Rubio, Kevin Love, and a more developed Corey Brewer? I think David Thorpe mentioned this on a recent espn podcast. That is some serious passing ability that would be a ridiculous fit for our triangle offense....AND they all fit well in our transition game as well.

Then at 5 we have Darko (also a good fit if he stays and keeps his mind right, though it seems likely he'll end up overseas) or whomever we get in return for Al. Plus we still have Jonny Flynn and the rights to Pekovic. :]

Kahn is a dealmaker, for sure, and he's got the assets to do some deals. Now we all just have to collectively think positively about the draft and use some quantum intention mind power shizznit to land a top pick...

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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42946

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Strong positivity by Courtside - Howl!!

I've already stopped focusing on this trainwreck of a year and also stopped checking Steph Curry's stats every night (mainly cause it makes my stomach hurt) and will start focusing on next year.

You've inspired me with the positive youtube clip, somewhat along the same lines here's the great Louie CK on Conan talking about how in 2010 we take things for granted. Highly Recommended!

Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42951

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chmick wrote:
Strong positivity by Courtside - Howl!!

I've already stopped focusing on this trainwreck of a year and also stopped checking Steph Curry's stats every night (mainly cause it makes my stomach hurt) and will start focusing on next year.

You've inspired me with the positive youtube clip, somewhat along the same lines here's the great Louie CK on Conan talking about how in 2010 we take things for granted. Highly Recommended!


Fantastic clip, howl right back! 80% of the world's problems today are due to us not appreciating what we have and not appreciating other people.

Here's one of my favorite vids, Anthony de Mello:

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6408137179133075503#
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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42955

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Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42960

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The Bobcats mmight end up losing out on the postseason because of those 2 Ls. Milwaukee is on a run and I don;t see Chicago or Toronto (they'll get Bosh back soon) missing out. Miami has injury/chemistry problems (JO injured his knee, Alston did noit report and I bet Beasley still smokes pot ;D) but D-Wade is good enough to take them to the playoffs on his back. Th Eastern race is becoming really interesting, especially when you know just one team is going to miss out.

I hope the Bobcats get in, because if they dn't we're losing their pick. #13 and #14 are easily going West to Memphis/NO/Houston and #11 and #12 will be a toss-up between one of the 3 western teams and Charlotte. Either way we don't get it, it would have to be #13 at the highest.

As for our draft board;
1) Wall
2) Turner
3) Favors
4) Wesley Johnson (similar to Turner, a solid swingman, could be the Tyreke Evans of the coming draft)

If we fall down to 5 though, we should just implode.

Re:Official Draft Position Thread 1 year, 11 months ago #42963

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czaras wrote:


As for our draft board;
1) Wall
2) Turner
3) Favors
4) Wesley Johnson (similar to Turner, a solid swingman, could be the Tyreke Evans of the coming draft)

If we fall down to 5 though, we should just implode.


LOL, let's not talk about falling to 5.

I agree with your draft board except for Wesley Johnson. Here are four of his seven weaknesses from DX's scouting report on him:

- Ability to get to free throw line
- Go-to scoring mentality
- Ability to create own shot
- Advanced ball-handling skills


www.draftexpress.com/profile/Wesley-Johnson-1215/

Basically, he's not very good at beating his man off the dribble and creating his own shot. So he's almost the anti-Tyreke.

The thing I realized before last year's draft that got me excited about us potentially drafting Tyreke was the fact that his jumpshot was crap and he was STILL scoring like a madman. In other words, defenders KNEW he was going to drive on them so they could totally cheat back on defense and yet he was still breaking ankles.

Wesley Johnson is a good player, but that's not his MO, IMO. If he reminds me of anyone from last year's draft, it's a more productive version of Demar Derozan.

As much as I don't think he's the best fit for this team, at this point I still think Cousins would be the pick at four because he's young, talented, productive, and he's a legit 5.

But of course, this is all hypothetical because we all know we're going to get one of the top two picks this year and draft Turner.
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