Al and love alike? Really? Could al ever get 40+ double doubles consecutively? I mean I just think love has shown so much more promise than al ever had. Put love on the jazz and thats at least five more wins.

onebyone wrote:
if you are saying this to me, i understand that klove and jefferson are really nothing a like. the only thing i compare them to eachother on is that they are never gunna be the #1 guy on a good team. klove needs to be a 3rd option on a winning team. beasley has a chance to be the #1 option but prob be a #2. we need to find our #1 option and klove cant be that guy if we want to be a winning team, he just isnt athletic enough to take over games consistantly against good defenders. that is what i meant when comparing those two together.

There are tons of super athletic people in the NBA, who can't take over a game to save their life. And I have seen Big Al take over a couple Jazz games and or the 4th quarter this year.

Non athletic guys who can take over games...

Nash, Scola, Ming, Zack, Pau, David West and Dirk.

Don't make me name some old timers too! =-P

cycosurgeon wrote:

i agree completely, non athletic guys CAN take over games. but usually the super-stars that take over games all the time are athletic. guys that are top scorers on good teams can create their own shots, against top defenders, consistantly. that does not include klove and big al. they are both great role players, and i feel klove is already much better then big al will ever be. klove can be a great player for good teams, but he cant be the #1 guy. thats all i am saying.

No_Love_Sessions wrote:
Main reason why Beasley has more "go-to guy" ability than Love or Jefferson: Jefferson can create his own shot if he gets the ball within 15 feet of the hoop. Love creates opportunities for himself almost exclusively by rebounding (the rest of his looks are when he gets feeds from others or gets the ball deep in the post). Beasley gets the ball anywhere inside halfcourt and has a reasonable chance to create his own shot. Needs to work on his handle, he ca get away with sloppiness against bigger defenders but when he's being guarded by a quicker guy he's very challenged to penetrate unless he goes straight to the cup without crossing over or messing around with the ball.

My prescription for Beasley = square up, shoot the ball, or go aggressively to the basket without dribbling the ball on the perimeter without going anywhere (these are called piss-dribbles or P-dribbles for short, because if you are peeing in the snow you want to aim away from your feet so you don't wet your pants; P-dribbles are dribbles that would end up soaking your shorts, you dribble right next to your feet and don't use your dribble to go anywhere). Next summer he needs to work on his handle.

A Milwaukee jeweler that specializes in custom work for professional athletes and musicians has sued a second NBA star over an unpaid bill -- just before he's due in town to face the Milwaukee Bucks. Pak's Jewelers says Michael Beasley of the Minnesota Timberwolves owes more than $40,000 for several pieces he ordered last January and March (before he was traded from the Miami Heat). Just last month, Pak's filed a similar suit against NBA All Star Joe Johnson of the Atlanta Hawks, but for more than $74,000. That complaint, too, was filed just prior to the Hawks' appearance in town to face the Bucks, but nothing in the court file suggested that anyone was able to take adavantage of that fact to serve Johnson.

so i am bringing back this oldy, to spark some fun conversations!

can it be true, is our success dependent on beasley? he seems to be liked by his teammates, and he has all the talent you need to be a star, but can he put it together? he is only, what 23 years old? right now klove and rubio are players that we can build around, but they cant create their own shots like beasley, and like other top players in the league.

what i am getting at is yes klove is our best player, by far. and rubio is extremely important. but we are lacking that guy that can create a shot when the offense breaks down.

we have 2 big pieces together, rubio and klove, but we need the 3rd piece IMO, a guy that can create when things arent happening......

so my question is, is beasley the guy that can put us over the hump with his scoring ability when we need it, or do we need to keep looking?

I HOPE its beasley, i really am rooting for the guy to be a star in this league, but we shall see.....

I've given up on Beasley. Let his next team try to tap that potential.

roundhouse wrote: No kidding, same here. And nevermind the fact that they are (probably) going to have to sign him to a decently big contract as a free agent this off-season as well!

Oh man, I cringe to think what dumb comments I made in this thread. Please let this die...

Concur. Please die, thread.

wolfenstein wrote: I could always delete it...

This reminds me of a topic in another forum I post... it was digged up after a couple of years and there were comments that Kyle Boller would own the entire NFL in 2 seasons max. ;D

czaras wrote:
well that happened so whats your point?

so we got a top 5 pick for foye and miller, what do you think we could get for wes and beasley this offseason? (we still own the rights to beasley dont we? if not then cancel that thought)

No_Love_Sessions wrote:
Beasley would have to be a sign and trade, since he'll be an RFA.