pants wrote:
YES. If Kahn didn't have such a pedantic, condescending personality, we would be satisfied. If he had a really awesome personality, we would be pumped about how kick ass a GM we have.

THAT is one of the only reasons McHale was not out of the league by 1999 and is still coaching today. He's funny as hell and gets along with people, but he was a totally incompetent GM.

Kahn = mildly competent GM, smarmy pain in the ass to listen to.

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His first and best move as GM. Great trade at the time and even better in hindsight. A+
Rubio was the obvious pick. Nobody thought he would fall to #5 and the wolves desperately needed a PG. The rest of the draft was a certified disaster w/ taking Flynn at #6 and trading Lawson. D-
At the time he claimed we would use Richardson's contract to trade for a good player. Ended up being traded for Mark Blount to save less than a million dollars. F
Money saving move. Also a waste of 2 2nd round picks. OKC ended up using those picks to acquire a 1st round pick. D
At the time it seemed like a good idea to take a chance on an athletic center. Too bad Hollins is terrible. C-
F
Songaila still had another year on his contract and Daniels was expiring. AND we got a 2nd round pick. A
Good player, terrible fit for the Rhombus Tricycle Offense. C+
Irrelevant. C
Free 2nd round pick. Nice. C+
Was done for the cash, not Darko. He ended up getting quite a bit of playing time to finish out the season. C
Horrible draft at the time, even worse in hindsight. F-
Got Beasley on discount because the Heat needed to free up space for Lebron & Bosh. B+
I won't be too hard on the Darko re-signing. Centers are hard to find. C-
Whether they fit on the team or not, you don't just trade away good young players for nothing. Kahn then claimed he would use the trade exception to make a "singular move". Which he never did. F
Head scratching move at the time because we had just signed Sessions to the exact same deal the year before. D
Cut West, Bassy sat on the bench all year. Gave up a 2nd round pick and a good player in Sessions. D-
Good role player. B-
Picking up the options on Flynn, Ellington, and Koufos was and is mind-numbingly idiotic. F
The last time we will have cap space for the next 5+ years and he used it on Eddy fucking Curry. Brewer would be the best wing player on this team right now. F
Ricky is here even with all the doubters saying he would never come. A
Gets an incomplete grade right now, but I think the D-Will pick will turn out to be bad in hindsight. The smart move would have been either to trade down or trade the pick completely. Kahn's cascade of trades just to raise enough cash to buyout Rambis will live on in infamy as a lesson on how not to run a sports franchise.
Traded for a 27 year old who wasn't even eligible to be in the draft. Nice. F
Another WTF??? moment with Ellington and Hayward's contracts. F
HELL YEA. Never would have guessed we could get anything for Hayward. B
I'm loving Barea but Kahn has now signed a free agent PG to the exact same deal 3 years in a row. Incomplete.

All I remember from your post Roundhouse is "Brewer would be the best wing player on this team right now." My man...I'll never forget you Turbo. Come back if you can...

Nathan Jawai! Yes. BRING. HIM. BACK. Now there is a man to play in the middle. How about him and Pek on the court at the same time? Yes. Where is Jawai? He's one of my favorite bad players ever on the Wolves, along with Bracey Wright, Dean Garret, Trenton Hassel, and McCants.

Jawai is in Russia playing for UNICS Kazan.

Brewer.

wolfenstein wrote:
Great post RH. But if you even get some weighting in it, you have to consider, that in many of the more important moves, Kahn didn't that bad. So his general note would be between C & and B-. And that's not that bad for a Minny GM...

I want my MTW wrote:
What doesn't show up on that list is all the opportunities to make this team better that he squandered. We have had more draft picks than we knew what to do with, many young players, big expiring contracts, and 15-20 million in cap space. And we have nothing to show for it. I would give him an F.

roundhouse wrote:
The problem is until this year with Rubio/Love looking like legit stars it was never clear that adding solid vets would do anything but put the Wolves in the late lottery.

If you add Gerald Wallace or Iggy to the crap sandwich you have a more expensive crap sandwich as evidenced by Charlotte and Philly a couple years ago. The Clippers gave a way a top pick just to rid of Baron after adding him at the wrong time.

An F what Isiah did in New York, an F is the McHale trade that hasn't come to fruition yet. Deals that not only screw your current team but future teams.

Kahn doesn't have an F move outside of the draft which is a different animal.

roundhouse wrote:
"We have had more draft picks than we knew what to do with": But havent had only one great Pick. Actually it's a shame, how much misfortune come's to our way here. A team, that historically sucks, and NEVER had a number one overall pick?? WTF!!
And then we finally got a No.2. and what happens? Lockout & half of the draft class stay a year longer...
Wes Johnson - by the way - was the consensual No.4. in nearly every Mock draft (f.e. www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft). Sure with Greg Monroe or Paul George we would be better of, but by that time, nearly noone knew.

"We have had more draft picks than we knew what to do with, many young players" - Yeah, that's always the case with bad teams. But how many of them are worthfull? How many of the guys which weren't draftet by Minny are real Studs now? maybe 7 or 8 maximum in all three years. The Draft is always a luck game in midsection... Especially if you haven't a (over years) proven Scouting in place (which Minny never had: how many good players have Minny traded - expect KG?)
"big expiring contracts": They only help, if 1. you find players, that wanna play here & if 2. you've got the right complementary assets for a deal. The first point isn't Kahn's guilt by it's own, and the second either (the team was fucking bad, when he took over...)
"and 15-20 million in cap space." Same thing: If your a small town-bad team you even have to pay Milicic a bigger amount of money, only that he stays...
"And we have nothing to show for it." Well I disagree: the show's obviously back in Minny & the team is MUCH better than 3 years ago...
"I would give him an F" This I really don't understand, cause you gave him at least two A's and a couple of B's and C+. How could he be that far away from a C or better (especially cause many of your F's were in really minor decisions...)? You would'nt be quite a fair teacher with this grading system

I want my MTW wrote:
I can only hope Roundhouse isn't a teacher. Maybe high school or a professor, but if he is a grade school teacher, yikes!

Daddy, yes. I was reading about Brewer in Denver today and it made me sad. He would be perfect for Adelman's system and for our team. Good thing we got rid of him so we could add to our logjam of big men. Frankly he'd probably be a good influence on Wes too, since CB is pretty mature and was a big winner in college. You never really know, but I get the sense that he was not afraid to speak his mind to his teammates in order to help the team win. Guys like him and Joakim Noah, for all their flaws as basketball players, are winners. Just like Rubio, only Rubio's skill is on a different planet.

Regarding Kahn, we made some bad moves, but seriously? We made 2 good relevant moves in the entire history of McHale. Both were big men named Kevin. If Kevin McHale had not picked Kevin Garnett and Kevin Love, then the McHale years would have made Isiah looked like a frickin brain surgeon.

I want my MTW wrote: Just because our old GM was a total FAIL, that makes Kahn good? No way. I say his average is like a C- at best.

roundhouse wrote: We squandered soooooo many opportunities, and it makes me mad. There are so many more better things that could have been done, but weren't. Inexcusable. And let's not even talk about his "Windows of Opportuniy."

When it gets close to draft day, the draft sites (draftexpress, nbadraft.net, etc) go by who they think the teams will take, not who they think are the best players. Kahn announced to the entire world like a week before the draft that he was going to take Wes.

College Wolf wrote:
I'd agree with C- to C+ somewhere in there depending on how the season ends and if we do anything to address the need at SG. And also if we bungle the Love contract thing.

Jury's out. Certainly you can't argue with the direction of the team at this moment in time, regardless of history, provided we don't blow K Love's contract deal.

How can you guys give Kahn a C? He has literally done 2 good things in 3 years. The trade with the Wizards which was the first ever thing he did, and I'd count the trade with New Orleans in there as well.

Everything else he has done has been complete shit.