roundhouse wrote:
My next posts are going to be called "Why Sam Young would have saved our season", and "Why Sam Young is the most underrated player in the history of modern sport."

Let me know when you get tired of bitching about everything, all the time.

As far as everything is concerned, I'm disappointed we didn't make a move but I am trying to look at it from the point of view of the Devil's Advocate (instead of jumping on the Pity Party Bus). Crawford, as Daddy said, was probably a lateral move and may have disrupted chemistry. I don't hate or love the non-trade, but for what it's worth, right now Mike Beasley seems to have his head wrapped around his role.

Not being involved with Nick Young is a lot less defensible, but you do have the case to make that throwing in a guy with a history of shooting a lot of bad shots isn't a good thing when Rubio is not available to regulate everyone's touches and make sure everyone is engaged. I still would have liked to have seen him on our team.

I suspect Kahn may have gloated over Ernie Grunfeld about Rubio and got shut out of dealing with Washington as a result, although I really don't know. Seems like something that would have happened though.
Sam Young is a role player and I think he played his role well last season on the Grizzlies. Their problem is more that they don't have minutes for him to play regularly because Gay, Mayo, and Tony Allen are all healthy, and all need to play big minutes. Just like Xavier Henry and Greivis Vasquez got pushed out for the same reasons, Sam Young just didn't have time to do what he does because those other guys do it much better (Tony Allen is basically a much better version of Sam Young).

But given that we don't have a competent and reliably healthy backup swingman, he would have made sense for us even if we didn't do anything else. He would have been better than nothing, in other words.

But nothing is what we got. Whine about it, cry about it, ain't gonna change it.

daddyfatsax wrote:
HA!

I have always thought that. I wonder if he is underrated because everyone thinks he is 38 already. Oh well.

Oh yea, because this is the first time that Kahn has completely fycked up a window of opportunity and he deserves a pass *rolls eyes*. What window of opportunity are we on right now anyways, #37?

So we didn't want to get Nick Young because he takes some bad shots, but we couldn't give up on Beasley because we like his bad shots?

Pacers picked up Barbosa for a 2nd round pick. Beasley for Barbosa would help this team. Gerald Wallace? Nah, we don't need these guys. Martell Webster and Wes Johnson are a perfectly good starting wing combination.

Kahn is going to make a great move this offseason, I can feel it. Just give it some more time. Patience.

I am not letting Kahn off the hook. I am choosing not to be a petulant ass about our failure to do anything productive at the deadline.

There is a difference.

If either of you two need a cleaning...

No_Love_Sessions wrote: Yep, we did.

Good thing is contract is up and he won't be back. Oh wait... Taylor gave him another year. Ugh.

roundhouse wrote: Truth.

roundhouse wrote: I am sooooo damn sick of the Status Quo. Kahn makes me sick not doing anything at the trade deadline.

No_Love_Sessions wrote: Kahn is clearly stupid. And delusional.

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNN!!!

2 weekends in a row of Wolves leaving fans sick to their stomachs. Atleast do something small like Derrick Williams for super stud Thabo Sefolosha.

Next year (or this summer) we should all start talking about how much we hope that Kahn does absolutely nothing at all. That is the only type of fan feedback that would move him to make a trade.

The thing that I hate about this particular trade deadline is that 2 of the teams we are competing closely for a playoff spot with got worse (Portland, big time, and Denver, slightly). There was really room for us to help our playoff chances here. This makes the Rubio injury sting even more. I put our current playoff chances at 8% this year.

BonK wrote:
Exactly. This sums it up.

I can jive with people not being interested in Beasley for Crawford. Everyone has their own take there and that's fine.

What bothers me the most is Kahn said no to the deal because he didn't want to take Derek Fisher! The starting point guard for the LA Lakers and by and large one of the, if not THE, most respected veteran players in the entire league. For a guy who has whined for years about adding 'veteran leadership' to not take on the salary of a Battier-like, classy veteran locker room presence and head of the players union...but he will pay Brad F%&^*ing Miller $5 million to rot on the bench with a boulder of Grizzly in his lip...inexcusable. Brad Miller has hit one field goal this year and it was a three he chucked up as the shot clocked expired.

Then again, he probably wouldn't have reported here so I should be quiet.

However, I am not over it and am fine with anyone being a 'petulant ass' about it, because it is extremely frustrating as a fan. That and the fact that people, mostly elsewhere, seem to think he is a good GM but don't understand the big picture. There is no excuse when deals could have been had to clearly upgrade the team at hardly NO additional cost. Bemoan/devalue our players all you want, there were deals to be had, end of story.

In fairness to my maniacal rant above:

basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219835/Min...sley_To_Lakers_Trade