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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83247

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Wouldn't know. I, like many NBA fans, only pretend to follow the NCAA and use YouTube highlights and last name coolness to evaluate college players. Let's let Kahn figure that out, he is the expert here.
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83254

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If we assume Beasley walks (he gets a 5mill per offer and the Wolves don't match, which will probably happen), the team obviously doesn't pick up the option on Brad Miller... I think we should also drop Martell (at least for that price). So even with Love's extension kicking in, with the lack of a 1st round pick (doubt the Jazz make the postseason) we should have a pretty decent amount of cap space.

Just how much? 10 mill?

My money would be all in on Kevin Martin. And the northwest becomes hell for visiting teams.
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Re: 2012 Offseason/Trades/Draft/Free Agents Open Thread 1 year 1 month ago #83256

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That wasn't you who left the bag? Damn...must have been Hoopnuts or TheMerryPrankster.

MOI? Trust me, I am much more subtle than that. LOL! I prefer to send something like a 14-16' hungry tiger shark.
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83257

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Is Rivers any good? His stock has dropped dramatically. Are we liking him because he was the #1 pick in mocks for the past year? Hype reason? I haven't seen him play much. Probably a good pick at 16 regardless (if we get the pick)?

Prediction: Alonzo Gee signing.

I watch more college ball than pro. Rivers is legit, but young and raw. Give him 2 years and he'll be very solid, but even right now he would be our best shooting guard. Reminds me of a more well built Steph Curry, but without the crazy ball handling skills and not quite as good of a shooter. He's got that edge to him though, the son of a pro swagger. I think his floor is an OJ Mayo type of player, which is probably a better comparison, at least physically.
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Re: 2012 Offseason/Trades/Draft/Free Agents Open Thread 1 year 1 month ago #83259

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Shannon Brown, CJ Miles, Carlos Delfino, and Landry Fields. All upgrades and potentially available.

I was reading an article (I think it was about John Wall and how bad his jump shot is) and I remember seeing that Shannon Brown has the worst jump shot shooting percentage of anyone in the league this year, for what that's worth...

Webster & Wes Johnson for ARIZA. Let's get it.

Since both Trevor Ariza and Shannon Brown played for, and won championships with, the Lakers, I got to watch both frequently. While both played significant roles in LA, neither seems to be very well suited to play for their current teams. Perhaps part of it is the result of the shortened training camps. Perhaps part of it that they just don't fit well where they are.

One thing that is true is that when you don't start, aren't the first or second option off the bench, or are played sporadically, you never get a chance to develop any sort of groove. When he gets the minutes, Ariza can score and he can play some "D". Brown brings some very good athletic ability off the bench. Loved watching him go to the hoop with a lob pass on its way. Sucker can jump through the roof!

Not sure on how Ariza is doing right now, but I recall noticing that Brown's game has picked up since the break. Of course, he is getting much more consistent playing time. I think either would be a good addition to the 'Wolves. A great deal of that has to do with the experience they would bring to the team.
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Re: 2012 Offseason/Trades/Draft/Free Agents Open Thread 1 year 1 month ago #83265

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Yes I think either of Shannon Brown or Ariza would be good fits on the Wolves. But then again, just about anyone is better than what we have right now.

I don't think there is anyway to justify keeping Webster for 5+ million a year, but knowing the wolves they'll do just that. I'd love to trade/cut him and then bring him back for about 1.5 million.
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83266

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Alright, enough sporadic thoughts. Let's organize some points so that MN Polars or Czaras or someone can email Kahn and do his job for him.

Someone is going to offer Beasley $5 mill a year? Who? I hope so, for his sake. I see a team like Charlotte or Boston (if they blow it up this summer) offering it to him.

So priorities are something like this (in no order):

1) Beasley. he will get an offer that the wolves should not match, most likely. How much is too much for Beasley? I'd continue to roll with him at his price, no more.

2) Webster. A fine role player for 20-ish minutes at half of his current salary, no more. half of 5 mill would be the max, probably.

3) Upgrade at either of the wings. Here is the tricky part. I think we all agree this is priority #1 and could drive those first two priorities.

4) After that, you have Randolph, I guess. Whatever. Let him try again elsewhere. Unfortunately, I don't think he'll ever be good.

5) Amnesty Darko? Nobody else would pick him up. It might be necessary. If he's as uncommitted as he is, it's a bad influence.

6) Fire Kahn.
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83267

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Gotta throw out a little something here - seems like as good a place as any (correct me if I'm wrong) - but, even though there haven't been that many games played since the trade deadline, I am thinking that Ramon Sessions was the best deal (steal?) that went down.

How did Cleveland let him get away for Walton and Kapono, who was immediately dropped? This may prove to be almost as good a deal for the Lakers as when we stole Pau! LOL!

Maybe Dr. Jerry is paying off other team's GMs? How could Kahn miss even trying to get this guy?
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83268

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daddyfatsax wrote:
Alright, enough sporadic thoughts. Let's organize some points so that MN Polars or Czaras or someone can email Kahn and do his job for him.

Someone is going to offer Beasley $5 mill a year? Who? I hope so, for his sake. I see a team like Charlotte or Boston (if they blow it up this summer) offering it to him.

So priorities are something like this (in no order):

1) Beasley. he will get an offer that the wolves should not match, most likely. How much is too much for Beasley? I'd continue to roll with him at his price, no more.

2) Webster. A fine role player for 20-ish minutes at half of his current salary, no more. half of 5 mill would be the max, probably.

3) Upgrade at either of the wings. Here is the tricky part. I think we all agree this is priority #1 and could drive those first two priorities.

4) After that, you have Randolph, I guess. Whatever. Let him try again elsewhere. Unfortunately, I don't think he'll ever be good.

5) Amnesty Darko? Nobody else would pick him up. It might be necessary. If he's as uncommitted as he is, it's a bad influence.

6) Fire Kahn.

Firing Kahn and acquiring legit NBA wings are the top 2 priorities.

I really hope that someone offers Beas a lot of money so that we aren't tempted to bring him back. Just move on.

Papa Glen is too cheap to use the amnesty on Darko. :(

Randolph is useless. Bringing him back would just be a waste of a roster spot.
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83269

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Firing Kahn and acquiring legit NBA wings are the top 2 priorities.

I really hope that someone offers Beas a lot of money so that we aren't tempted to bring him back. Just move on.

Papa Glen is too cheap to use the amnesty on Darko. :(

Randolph is useless. Bringing him back would just be a waste of a roster spot.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced someone will easily be able to sell Beasley as a reclamation project and will offer him 8+ a year. That's one less 'developmental' player to worry about since he's clearly nothing more than a role player.

AR is set for a run next to Nash, I can feel it. Good luck.

So we're stuck hoping team Adelman can do anything with Darko and Wes this summer to make them productive players? Gross. I honestly have such little faith in Wesley Johnson that I'd rather team Adelman focused on Darko if I had to choose. Please trade Wesley for Matt Carroll. The Wolves need more white wing players, there is a dearth of them on this squad in comparison to the big men and pg's.
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83284

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themerryprankster wrote:
Gotta throw out a little something here - seems like as good a place as any (correct me if I'm wrong) - but, even though there haven't been that many games played since the trade deadline, I am thinking that Ramon Sessions was the best deal (steal?) that went down.

How did Cleveland let him get away for Walton and Kapono, who was immediately dropped? This may prove to be almost as good a deal for the Lakers as when we stole Pau! LOL!

Maybe Dr. Jerry is paying off other team's GMs? How could Kahn miss even trying to get this guy?

SIGH. :(

(Punches self in the face repeatedly.)
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83291

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themerryprankster wrote:
Gotta throw out a little something here - seems like as good a place as any (correct me if I'm wrong) - but, even though there haven't been that many games played since the trade deadline, I am thinking that Ramon Sessions was the best deal (steal?) that went down.

How did Cleveland let him get away for Walton and Kapono, who was immediately dropped? This may prove to be almost as good a deal for the Lakers as when we stole Pau! LOL!

Maybe Dr. Jerry is paying off other team's GMs? How could Kahn miss even trying to get this guy?

SIGH. :( (Punches self in the face repeatedly.)

Sorry, CW. Had to ask. I am very, very impressed with his playing. He has some rough spots, but he seems like he really is a hard worker. So far, mostly ad libbing, he has been pretty impressive. Think you could have used him on court with Love, Beasley, Pek and Barea or Ridnour?
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83297

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We were well aware that Sessions is good. Back when he was still on the Bucks he had something ridiculous like 24 assists in one game. Rambis badly misused him because he was so intent on making his tricylce offense work with Wes Johnson playing the role of Kobe and Sessions as the sharpshooting point guard. :S
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83300

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We were well aware that Sessions is good. Back when he was still on the Bucks he had something ridiculous like 24 assists in one game. Rambis badly misused him because he was so intent on making his tricylce offense work with Wes Johnson playing the role of Kobe and Sessions as the sharpshooting point guard. :S

I don't know how the team didn't just completely shut him out and run their own offense.

Ramon Sessions into Steve Kerr = fail
Wes Johnson into Pippen = fail
Kevin love into Kukoc super sub and then into Kukoc-Rodman = fail
Flynn into Derek Fisher and zero PnR's all year = fail
tough love for all your players Tony Soprano style = fail
Beasley into MJ with no accountability on either end = fail
Zero development of any players at all = fail
Rambis' life = fail

Anyway, on to the Wolves' offseason. How will it take to pry Kirilenko over to be a wily vet for the team? He'll work well for a few years. He'll like MN weather, too.

Rubio
Shannon Brown
AK
Love
Pek

Bench (no solutions yet...it sucks and doesn't fit together):
Ridnour
Barea (Although Bonk loves him :whistle: I feel like they should trade him back to the Mavericks once they lose out on Deron)
Tolliver (What's going to happen here? Let's keep him)
Darko (assume he'll be super motivated for the beginning of the season to get me excited again only to get fat & out of shape once more)
Martell (With AK and Brown there's no need to resign, even at a lower price)
Wellington (whatever)
Lee (after watching him play he's my new Corey Brewer. I can't stop watching him on D. If he learns the game on D, he's money. Like a defensive version of Westbrook).
Wesley - How can they get rid of him?
Derrick Williams - Traded for Ibaka or Favors.
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Re: Premature offseason thread #1 1 year 1 month ago #83302

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daddyfatsax wrote:
roundhouse wrote:
We were well aware that Sessions is good. Back when he was still on the Bucks he had something ridiculous like 24 assists in one game. Rambis badly misused him because he was so intent on making his tricylce offense work with Wes Johnson playing the role of Kobe and Sessions as the sharpshooting point guard. :S

I don't know how the team didn't just completely shut him out and run their own offense.

Ramon Sessions into Steve Kerr = fail
Wes Johnson into Pippen = fail
Kevin love into Kukoc super sub and then into Kukoc-Rodman = fail
Flynn into Derek Fisher and zero PnR's all year = fail
tough love for all your players Tony Soprano style = fail
Beasley into MJ with no accountability on either end = fail
Zero development of any players at all = fail
Rambis' life = fail

Anyway, on to the Wolves' offseason. How will it take to pry Kirilenko over to be a wily vet for the team? He'll work well for a few years. He'll like MN weather, too.

Rubio
Shannon Brown
AK
Love
Pek

Bench (no solutions yet...it sucks and doesn't fit together):
Ridnour
Barea (Although Bonk loves him :whistle: I feel like they should trade him back to the Mavericks once they lose out on Deron)
Tolliver (What's going to happen here? Let's keep him)
Darko (assume he'll be super motivated for the beginning of the season to get me excited again only to get fat & out of shape once more)
Martell (With AK and Brown there's no need to resign, even at a lower price)
Wellington (whatever)
Lee (after watching him play he's my new Corey Brewer. I can't stop watching him on D. If he learns the game on D, he's money. Like a defensive version of Westbrook).
Wesley - How can they get rid of him?
Derrick Williams - Traded for Ibaka or Favors.

Your starting lineup is one Kyle Korver away from being the most monochromatic starting lineup in years.
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