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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 4 weeks ago #84828

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I want my MTW wrote:
Maybe this is the right moment to make a general comment, `bout the grade of badness of the moves, as it is reduced to only six:

1. Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY

By that time, AR was quite a interesting, but a bit risky piece: he showed promise, but didn't had consistent minutes. By then Pek really wasn't the monster he was this season & we urgently looked for big man with potential - i can follow this move, even when it's a pity, that we had Corey let to go (I like him very much, too, escpecially his toughness, but he surely isn't playing consistently offense)

2. Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens.
BJ Mullins? Common! Derozan & Jennings were question marks too by that time & its always easy to respond afterwards... Curry surely was a mistake, but the Wolves weren't the only one's who believed in Flynn by that time (actually in 2K11 they comment him still as a very promising guard with a bright future... *lol*)

3. Turning down Webster for Iguodala:
I remember the discussion here - many of you thought, Iggy was to expensive and couldn't get enough offensivly on his own. (Me in person I allways like him, as well as Granger) But there sure were reasonable arguments around then, even when Iggy's worth now has climbed again...

4. Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks

That was a really courages move, but AJ has his downsides (especially defensivly) and the argument with relieving KLove has worked perfectly out. Maybe there really was more bad Karma around, that is showed to the outside...
Crazy move, but it didn't make as worse anyway...

5. Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams

By now it's too early to call this a bad move, especially as Williams showed promise, too...

6. Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing

By that time nearly nowbody so in Ty Lawson the potential to play like he does now, so this move is maybe a pity, but it's really not a mental collapse or something...

All in all you can argue, that all this moves are sometimes a pity unconventional or even nebulous, but they weren't mostly unreasonable by that time. And our team's getting better consistently since KAhn took over...!
Man, talk about revisionist history. You must really like Kahn?!? :S

The *minor* improvement to this team is almost solely due to Rubio and Adelman. Kahn has done NOTHING to improve this team whatsoever. (Other than getting lucky and drafting Rubio, which any idiot would have done.)
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84907

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1. Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY

By that time, AR was quite a interesting, but a bit risky piece: he showed promise, but didn't had consistent minutes. By then Pek really wasn't the monster he was this season & we urgently looked for big man with potential - i can follow this move, even when it's a pity, that we had Corey let to go (I like him very much, too, escpecially his toughness, but he surely isn't playing consistently offense)

AR was (and still is) a career 12th man. Kahn waited 3-4 months chasing this guy and used all of his short term cap space to absorb an $11 million salary figure in Eddy Curry. He gave up TWO superior players (might be a stretch but Koufos was decent). He also was the only GM in the league willing to absorb Curry's salary so the Knicks could acquire an elite swingman. He had leverage, and got a 12th man and a 2nd round pick in 2016. The trade was ludicrous in every respect. Seriously, the most "ridiculous at-the-time" trade in Wolves history second to maybe only the Marko Jaric trade. Minimal risk in hindsight, but it's more the principle behind it. It was as if HE were chasing Melo...and he got a 12th man!! Insane.

2. Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens.
BJ Mullins? Common! Derozan & Jennings were question marks too by that time & its always easy to respond afterwards... Curry surely was a mistake, but the Wolves weren't the only one's who believed in Flynn by that time (actually in 2K11 they comment him still as a very promising guard with a bright future... *lol*)

The BJ Mullens bit was added by me as a joke. But... what's funny is the point still stands. Mullens would have even been a better pick. Also, the Flynn pick was baffling and mind-numbing at the time. Inexcusable without hindsight

3. Turning down Webster for Iguodala:
I remember the discussion here - many of you thought, Iggy was to expensive and couldn't get enough offensivly on his own. (Me in person I allways like him, as well as Granger) But there sure were reasonable arguments around then, even when Iggy's worth now has climbed again...

Iggy has his flaws. You are right there. But the point was the Wolves had a chance to dramatically improve their team for next to nothing and didn't capitalize. Now our big move will probably be an Alexsey Schved signing.

4. Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks

That was a really courages move, but AJ has his downsides (especially defensivly) and the argument with relieving KLove has worked perfectly out. Maybe there really was more bad Karma around, that is showed to the outside...
Crazy move, but it didn't make as worse anyway...

Again, why not trade Al for a player? Look at who is starting next to Love right now (Pek). Consider how remarkably similar his game is to Big Al's.

5. Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams

By now it's too early to call this a bad move, especially as Williams showed promise, too...

He has shown promise, but understand the context. Williams could be good. But it made no sense to keep him in the depth chart and force him into a poor role for a guy who probably deserved big minutes his rookie year on a rebuilding team. There were better fits with more experience. Kahn could still trade him yet, so the jury is definitely still out. Personally, I get why Williams was pissed. #2 picks should get minutes immediately for better or worse. He was put into a bad situation for HIM.

6. Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing

By that time nearly nowbody so in Ty Lawson the potential to play like he does now, so this move is maybe a pity, but it's really not a mental collapse or something...

This move doesn't bother me as much because Denver made the pick. Kahn probably wouldn't have taken him. Still sucks.

All in all you can argue, that all this moves are sometimes a pity unconventional or even nebulous, but they weren't mostly unreasonable by that time. And our team's getting better consistently since KAhn took over...!

Have you seen the team records the past 3 years? The team has gotten drastically WORSE since Kahn got here....
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84909

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+1 : Iggy
-1: Lawson. Nugs pick. Kahn would have picked some 38 year old woman from Ireland or some nonsense.


The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

20 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
20 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
14 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
11 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams
1 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing


ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84910

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+ Flynn - Still the one that pains me the most.

- Lawson - To keep the game moving.

The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

21 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
20 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
14 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
11 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams


ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84945

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The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

21 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
14 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
11 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams


ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84976

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The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

22 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
14 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
11 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
3 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams


ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84979

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The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

22 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
14 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
12 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
2 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams


ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84980

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+ Big Al - The guy is a borderline all-star and we gave him away for most likely unimpactful picks.

- D-Will - Was pretty much the consensus #2 in the draft.

The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

22 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
14 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
13 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
1 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams


ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84981

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Bytheway, I have shown a couple of my friends this David Kahn Hall of Fail lately and they think it is awesome. Well constructed, WW.
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The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

23 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
14 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
13 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks



ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
0 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams
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+ Flynn: Just brutal. Killer for our franchise and future hopes (considering guys passed up.)

- Iggy.


The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

24 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
13 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
13 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks



ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
0 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 3 weeks ago #84988

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The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

23 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
13 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
14 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks



ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
0 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 1 week ago #85339

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+ Flynn
- Al Jefferson. bad, but not the worst

The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

24 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
13 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
13 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks



ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
0 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 1 week ago #85341

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+ Flynn: Franchise crippling move of terribleness.

- Iggy


The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

25 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
21 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
12 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
13 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks



ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
0 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 11 months 1 week ago #85343

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As I recall, no six hour rule

+ Brewer
- Big Al

A FatSax suggestion - all votes count as two points from now on CW?

The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

25 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry, Demar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings and BJ Mullens
22 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
12 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
12 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks



ELIMINATED:


0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio - Kahn's First and Best Move!
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley - Kahn's 2nd Best Move!
0 Hiring Rick Adelman - Kahn's 3rd best move!
0 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash - Kahn's 4th best move!
0 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension - Kahn's 12th worst move!
0 Gomes + #16 overall pick for Martell Webster. Basically the same calibre players. And this was supposed to clear up cap space Kahn never used. And Martell has been perpetually injured. And we gave up the #16 overall pick to do this. Ugh. - Kahn's 11th worst move.
0 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams. - Kahn's 10th worst move!
0 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout - Kahn's 9th worst move!
0 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 2 of the entire draft. - Kahn's 8th worst move!
0 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins - Kahn's 7th worst move
0 Drafting Tanguay Ngombo in the 2nd round who Kahn thought was 21 but actually turned out to be 26 and ineligible for the draft. - Kahn's 6th Worst Move!
0 Trading away Ty Lawson for basically nothing - Kahnman's 5th Worst Move!
0 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player, creating an awkward situation with Derrick Williams
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