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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91075

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I realize I'm patting myself on the back here, but I said he was done-zo after he first retired. I don't feel so bad now about hating this ridiculous signing this off-season. I can't believe Mayo got less than Roy... mind-blowingly sad and depressing. Nice work Kahn.

:( :( :(
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91076

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College Wolf wrote:
I realize I'm patting myself on the back here, but I said he was done-zo after he first retired. I don't feel so bad now about hating this ridiculous signing this off-season. I can't believe Mayo got less than Roy... mind-blowingly sad and depressing. Nice work Kahn.

:( :( :(

You assume that Mayo would have any interest at all in going back to the organization that traded him. These guys care about that stuff.
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91077

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Damn that sucks about Roy. It's probably time to make a trade now. D-Will and/or Ridnour for a good wing would really solidify the team.
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91078

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wolfenstein wrote:
College Wolf wrote:
I realize I'm patting myself on the back here, but I said he was done-zo after he first retired. I don't feel so bad now about hating this ridiculous signing this off-season. I can't believe Mayo got less than Roy... mind-blowingly sad and depressing. Nice work Kahn.

:( :( :(

You assume that Mayo would have any interest at all in going back to the organization that traded him. These guys care about that stuff.

I doubt that would play a factor at all. Money & role are likely to be the most important factors by far for him.
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91081

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roundhouse wrote:
wolfenstein wrote:
College Wolf wrote:
I realize I'm patting myself on the back here, but I said he was done-zo after he first retired. I don't feel so bad now about hating this ridiculous signing this off-season. I can't believe Mayo got less than Roy... mind-blowingly sad and depressing. Nice work Kahn.

:( :( :(

You assume that Mayo would have any interest at all in going back to the organization that traded him. These guys care about that stuff.

I doubt that would play a factor at all. Money & role are likely to be the most important factors by far for him.

But would he have gotten the big money from Kahn for him to say no to Cuban? even the 5 million guarantee to Roy had to wait for all of the Batum dealings to be over. I doubt OJ was coming to MN for the 5 million Roy got. And no one wanted to give Mayo 8 mill. Kahn could have package the Roy-Shved money to get him...but, well, Shved is white, European and Kahn can play him off as another discovery.

It is strange that so many of these free agents get overpaid and OJ did not. But I also give him credit for taking 2 years in a good situation and then being prepared to go back on the market sooner than later. Who knows what Cuban told him, too. Cuban might have told him to give him flexibility now and he will be sure a big contract is next.

Anyway, I am highly skeptical that Kahn was getting OJ this offseason in the midst of their main plan to go after Batum. If the original plan was OJ (which I would have been all for), Kirilenko and Shved, without the wasted time and cap holds with Batum contract, then maybe we could have OJ here, too. But the priority was the young athletic 3.
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91082

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Tod Murphy wrote:
But would he have gotten the big money from Kahn for him to say no to Cuban? even the 5 million guarantee to Roy had to wait for all of the Batum dealings to be over. I doubt OJ was coming to MN for the 5 million Roy got. And no one wanted to give Mayo 8 mill. Kahn could have package the Roy-Shved money to get him...but, well, Shved is white, European and Kahn can play him off as another discovery.

It is strange that so many of these free agents get overpaid and OJ did not. But I also give him credit for taking 2 years in a good situation and then being prepared to go back on the market sooner than later. Who knows what Cuban told him, too. Cuban might have told him to give him flexibility now and he will be sure a big contract is next.

Anyway, I am highly skeptical that Kahn was getting OJ this offseason in the midst of their main plan to go after Batum. If the original plan was OJ (which I would have been all for), Kirilenko and Shved, without the wasted time and cap holds with Batum contract, then maybe we could have OJ here, too. But the priority was the young athletic 3.

Roy & Steimsma make $7.5 mil combined, so we could have offered significantly more than the $4 million he is getting from the Mavs. But let's say they do offer him $5 million. Would he rather make $4 mil to be starting SG on the Mavs or make $5 mil to be starting SG on Wolves? I think there is a good chance he would choose the Wolves, considering the Wolves are perceived as an up and coming team while the Mavs are on the decline.
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91084

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Adelman said they talked a lot about OJ. But it didn't sound like they seriously talked WITH OJ.

Kahn should really answer these questions about why 5 million for Roy and their decision to not negotiate with Mayo. Of course, he will never answer that. Papa Glen was completely involved and went to visit Roy, so he will probably not hold Kahn accountable either, since Glen decided be a part of the decision at the time.
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91085

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My opinion is that at last David Khan is taking the bull by the horns and doing what he has to do.

If you are not contributing anything to the team, Why have to pay you?. It was enough when they were the # 2 Pick Darko, which did not solve anything in this team pass year.

Just pray that Mr. Khan can now get some caliber player who can help and contribute more to the team and I insist that the biggest weakness is in the Center, I say this because although we have to Pek is doing a immense work, but just can not be many minutes on court for Stiesman inefficient, because eventually it will wear and finally have a serious injury. They have to think about this in the face for the playoffs. Clearly understand that they too are in need of a SG but for me it is easier to cover that as possible to cover the Center position.

Hopefully someday materialize and the trade of Gasol to the Wolves. It would be crucial missing piece for this team to finally be out of one more and be recognized as a threat to any team franchise.

I'd also like that Khan did not think more to do with D-William and remove him to hell. This dude is useless. PERIOD.

Then continue as rumors continue.

Without Roy we are better and we will . . .
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91086

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As Wally World said on the front page article, Wolves are 8.5 point favorites.

Minnesota 103
Phoenix 96

B-Eazy + Wes = 9 points

Telfair - 16 points

Bonus: tRicky double double!
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WHAT, Ricky is out with back spasms......?! :(
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91088

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Apparently Kahn said Roy to try a 3-4 week non-surgical treatment.

Love and Dudley shooting well tonight.
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Front court is rockin' tonight!

I love how we are worried about positions and then D-Will Love HAM play together. Then Pek checks in with them! Ladies and gentlemen, your new shooting guard, Derrick Williams!
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91092

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Tod Murphy wrote:
Front court is rockin' tonight!

I love how we are worried about positions and then D-Will Love HAM play together. Then Pek checks in with them! Ladies and gentlemen, your new shooting guard, Derrick Williams!

My favorite part of the game!

Good to see Pek get himself back on track. What's up with Gortat? He is disinterested.
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Game Thread: Suns @ Wolves 12/29/12 4 months 2 weeks ago #91095

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I'm not sure, if I go along with you guys

- Firstly: To try the Roy-path was a fairly (`cause risky) shot, I guess, `cause if it had worked we would have had one of the most talented SG in the last 10 years nearly for free...
- Secondly: I'm not so sure, if Adelman would had like to have Majo in the team, cause he had a history of being a cancer for a team (not a team player). And as good as he plays individually right now, Dallas as a whole doesn't really play team-ball at all. In this regard he doesn't really seem to be a leader (which a healthy Roy surely would have been)
- Thirdly: Batum plays sensational non-egoistic, but success-relevant basketball right now. Not even is he playing good D, has made some huge buzzer-beat, he also is piling up his assists-ratio. He might be eveb a bigger reason than Lillard (or LA), that Portland is one of our bigger opponents. This shows, that it was a really o.k. move trying to get him (actually I would loved to see him and AK playing together - Imagine a line-up like Ricky-Batum-AK-Love-Pek)

So all in all the way, our managment handled off-season, is really fine for me, even if it hasn't worked out perfectly. But right now we have a young, super talented core (Ricky, Shved, Love, Pek) of players, guided by a real veteran (AK 47), and some hard-nosed players too (like Ham), and we're standing on a playoff-position in mid-season, even with many players not even be fully healthy or in rythm, so why bother?
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