At this point the bigger twist would be no twist at all and just have Gwen and Jamie be co-conspirators. They can't keep the same #1 suspect for two episodes in a row this season.

It is funny thinking back that there was that whole Islamic, female circumcision, girl smuggling plot arc with Bennett. They really lost there way on that one.

Jamie/Gwen obviously had a hand in brokering the deals between Ames and the Mayor on the waterfront project, but I would have a hard time with them being ravenous psychopaths. This isn't a slasher film where the prissy girl ends up being the killer out for revenge or some shyt.

Speaking of Ames...why is he "Mr. Pivotal character" yet has only appeared in the series in two episodes? Makes it impossible to identify with this mystery man who is apparently a primary villain in the series. I mean, you have to be ZONED into that show to even know who that guy is, yet his plot points are critical to understanding the motive behind all of this.

The show will need to have justice, and thus it will have to be one of the two or three most unlikable characters in the show for it to hold weight. If it's Jamie and Gwen (aka, Luke Ridnour and Wes Johnson), then it becomes a cheap B-list horror movie. Won't happen.

Just my $0.02.

And in my example, Rubio is Richmond, Barea is Linden, Wolf-for-a-year Oleksey Pecherov is Holder, Wolf-for-a-week Etan Thomas is Bennet, Mike Miller is Mitch and Kevin Love is DEFINITELY Mayor Adams, Rick Adelman is Stanley and his buddy who offed himself shooting Richmond is Rambis.

I don't think it will be a ravenous psycho path situation. Doesn't really fit with the show. It'd be more annoying if it is a secondary non-entity like Ames involved than Jamie and Gwen.

I think they've definitely set it up to be a multiple people involved even if it isn't Gwen and Jamie. Only a conspiracy would be satisfying at this point.

WallyWorld wrote:
WHAT! PEKO is Holder.

I had Pek as Holder at first but he looks too much like Pecherov to ignore it.

WallyWorld wrote:
Hmmm, you make a compelling case.

WallyWorld wrote: Hahahaha I would say Pek as well, but YES... you are totally right about Pecherov. They are eerily similar lololol!

Any of you guys watch this yet??????


























I have to say, I saw that ending coming a million miles away. I'm sure some of you guys did too? Heck, we basically already predicted it.

I just have two questions:

1) WHY did Jaime attack Rosie at the casino after hearing her phone ring? He didn't know what she *might* have heard, or if she was even in the room. And because her oldass 8MM camera fell out of her bag? Did he think she was recording their stupid conversation with it? That's dumb that a meticulous person like Jaime would attack Rosie on some random suspicion. You would have to believe he'd at least question her first.

2) Why is Ames not being charged with anything? The police clearly know he was there based on Terry's testimony.


P.S. I hope there is not a season 3. Just let this show be over.

Yeah I was going to say...no reaction? Just watched this last night.

Just as I had worried, Luke "Jamie" Ridnour was plugged as a psychotic lunatic. I don't think he intended to kill her, really. He is just a sociopath and Pecherov rightfully gunned him down.

The Terry thing was a curveball I guess, despite the fact that there is no way she could sit idly by knowing what she did. Oh well, way too much over-analysis of plot holes goes on in these threads. It's TV. It would have been lame if it were 100% predictable, because it wasn't. Predictable a million miles away? Quite False. You can't guess every character and then claim you were right.

The ending wasn't believable, but I think it was a fairly well-done episode and they made it work. I thought the scenes with the family having closure were well done and put a nice wrap on it, despite being a tad corny. The video was a nice touch and symbolic.

No word on season 3 yet. They left it open with Holder going to find a body. I would continue to watch the show, especially if they made each season a new case.

WallyWorld wrote: It was predictable. My guesses were Jaime/Gwen and then Terry/Ames.

I didn't hate it by any means, as it was a decent enough show overall. But the ending to this entire saga was stupid. They want us to care about Rosie and why she was murdered, and who did it... yet it just turns out it was an "accident" and she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Lame.

I'd only watch more if it was ONE season per murder/plot, and Holder played a huge role. Because he rocks hard.

This person on Grantland definitely didn't like the ending, lolol: www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8072330/the...went-wrong-amc-drama

College Wolf wrote:
Dude, anything is predictable if you make FOUR guesses. Other than Sen. Eaton and Butch Indian Lady, who else could it have even been, especially after they showed who went into the construction site on the 12th episode? You're telling me you thought it was one of those 4 from even the middle of season 2?

Agree, Holder MADE that show. 100%. I also liked Stan too. I thought he was a fairly good actor. Terry and Mitch were both very unlikable. If I had to guess, the guy who played Richmond has a strong background in afternoon soap operas. Let me check... nope. Surprising.

Think it'll be renewed?

WallyWorld wrote: I would have thought it was a 50-50 chance or so. But then I was reading about the ratings and apparently they were super terrible for every episode besides the first couple. And it gets a lot of bad discussion online. So.... no, probably won't be renewed.

So what happened at the end?

roundhouse wrote: Probably go read on Wikipedia for the full scoop. But Jaime and Terry were the ones that killed her. Kinda anti-climatic, actually.