College Wolf wrote: Actually, this has happened a bunch now. So maybe everyone is already infected (airborne virus?), and when they die they turn into a zombie???

College Wolf wrote:
Many people speculate that was the secret the doctor whispered to Rick in the first season finale.

Remember that Rick shot the fat guy at the bar in the brain after he had shot him twice in the body to kill him. What did he know that others did not...?

CG wrote:
Ahhh, very good deduction. I like it.

Yea, good action in the episode but poor writing. Carl can't shoot like that, nor can he keep escaping to wonder by himself.

We could hear Zombie Shane clear as day growling and draggin his feet but Rick couldn't hear him and would have died if his son wasn't the best shot in the world? Weird.

At least Darryl is too badass to fall for Shane's trick and figured it out...but why would he go along with this half-assed idea of Shane's in the first place? Shane clearly lost it. Glen, sure, he's an idiot. But Rick, Andrea, Darryl, etc. They would have known that was some BS. the barn was locked...which foils his entire story since the kid wasn't superman.

Oh well, is the season over?

daddyfatsax wrote:
I assume that most horor/sci-fi writers asuume that if we, audiences, believe that a zombie apocalypse has occured, then we will believe (or become so detached from reality as to accept) that, for example:

1. a man decides to wonder alone at night in an open field where he can be attacked by zombies.
2. that same man will not start running back to safety as soon as he sees an agonizing cow whose intestines are all scattered on the ground.
3. as he runs, that same man goes for his rifle pointing in all directions ready to shoot.

or

1. a man who knows that his best friend desires his wife, is going insane, and has tried to kill him previously decides to search for a man that his best friend wants dead along with his best friend all alone at night in a lonely field.
2. a man who thinks he is about to be shot by his own son may focus more on the potential danger in front of him, might be blocked by his own tears and pain for having killed his best friend and for believing that his son is about to kill him, and might be deafened by his own screams not to remember that he knows that any dead person who is not shot in the head will zombify or not to hear the growling zombie that is rushing towards him.
3. his son, just after a couple of target practice classes, and after not being able to find the trigger to kill a siting-duck zombie, now shoots right in the head and over his fathers' shoulder a running zombie, more precisely and deadlier than 007.

How much can we detach ourselves from reality after we have accepted that a zombie aplocalypse occured?

Anywho, I feel that all the irrelevant characters for Season 3 will experience a cool ending next Sunday....

CG wrote: Good chatter fellas. Lots of smartness here (unlike from the writers of the show.)

Oh yeah, I actually forgot about that scientist guy telling Rick "the secret" at the end of season 1. That would totally make sense that the secret is that everyone is already infected.

Carl sucks so much. NO WAY he hits Zombie Shane in the head. And no way Rick doesn't hear him walking towards him in the first place. Ugh. That was lame. Carl is one of the worst things to happen to the show. He's the reason they are at the farm. He does stupid stuff. He wanders off. He's annoying. I hate him.

I really hope you are right about a lot of characters dying in the next episode...

P.S. DFS - Next week is the Season 2 finale.

Wait a second...so I just watched the preview for next week...

Ummm, they shot at zombies coming out of the barn for 5 minutes straight. They've had target practice there. Shane got a shot off at Rick..And Carl's shot is the one the zombies hear and come running toward? ok...And if they are brain dead, how does a random single shot from a ways away trigger enough brain power to deduce where it came from and to go that way? I feel like they would be chasing each other's groans and growls all day if noise triggers them. If they can distinguish between sounds then they aren't nearly as dumb as the scientist made them out to be...when he showed a completely dead brain.

Sorry, that may be nitpicking. Ignore that. I'm excited to see Darryl in action next week. hopefully he gets to slicing with his blade and using his crossbow.

R.I.P pyscho Shane. Dude had lost it. Props to Rick for doing what he had to do.

College Wolf wrote:
Then, it would be cool to guess who dies next Sunday....

My bets/candidates are to die are:
1. Hershel - his beliefs, his farm, and his world will finally be torn apart next Sunday when zombies ruin his heaven. Thus, he must go, so that additionally, his daughter Maggie (rawr!) can roam free with Glenn.
2. Carol - dead husband, dead daughter, would not create any kind of romantic chemistry with Dale, no reason to live.
3. Andrea - his sister is dead, his father-figure is dead, his potential romantic interest is dead, and she wanted to die at the end of Season 1, so what is left for her?
4. T-Dog - does he ever speak? what is his role in the big picture? is he in any way important to the group? Unless he does something truly badass or heroic next Sunday, he will become zombie-chum.
5. Beth - a couple of episodes ago, she wanted to commit suicide in order to avoid being eaten by zombies, so I say she is the perfect victim to be torn into dozens of pieces next Sunday. Also, she is not even hot, especially, when compared to her older sister Maggie (yummy!).
6. Patricia - who? oh, Otis' widow! she is in a duel with T-Dog to determine who is the least relevant character... zombie-treat!

Who lives:
1. Rick - for obvioius reasons
2. Lori - annoying, but she is one of the driving forces behind Rick, and it will be interesting to find out what her baby's fate will be.
3. Carl - I have not read the comic books, since I do not want to ruin the experience, but according to the people who have, that annoying brat will develop into a badass adolescent... maybe then, if that really happens, I will start to like him.
4. Glenn - he represents the common man, so he must continue to live; additionally, if he will cause Maggie to undress again, he deserves to live.
5. Maggie- yum, yum, gimme sum! too sexy to die; no way I can even think about killing her and allowing toothpick Lori live. Hotties like her are a must in a zombie apocalypse.
6. Daryl - my favorite character; although his potential love interest, Carol (ugh!) should die, he is now Rick's "wingman", so he should continue to play a major role, especially taking care of the dirty work; also, I hope that the story about his brother's dissapearance will be dealt with and concluded.

Let's see what happens in Season 2 Finale next Sunday....

How do you know a bunch of characters will die?

I don't think they would kill Andrea, but who knows. If T-Dawg does bite it, guaranteed he's the first character to die in the episode Not sure if they would kill him unless they plan to introduce a new token black guy in Season 3. Otherwise it throws off the minority ratio.

Hershel is 100% going to die. The other 3 people you mention are completely irrelevant and nobody will even notice that they're gone.

I hope everyone on the show dies except Daryl. Then he finds a chainsaw, builds a homemade flamethrower, and proceeds to kill everything in sight.

roundhouse wrote:
Ha, ha, ha! And then, "The Walking Dead" becomes a Romero/Raimi wet dream titled, "The Night of the Evil Dead Walkers"....

Yeah, I haven't read the comics either because I didn't want to spoil anything.

I was also wondering how you knew people were going to die? Where did you see that?

I don't care who dies as long as Darryl lives. And I guess Glenn and Maggie too. Those are the three best characters BY FAR.

I guess Rick will have to live now that Shane is dead. I hope Lori and Carl die, although they obviously won't. That's too bad.

Herschel is a goner for sure. And any/all of those others you named can die as well. They are irrevelant and pointless. Hopefully they introduce new better characters next season.

Poor T-Dawg, lol. He's just got nothing to work with and they never do anything to work him into any plotlines.

No, I do NOT know that or if people are going to die... I am guessing several characters' deaths based on the facts that:

1. the previews for next week episode shows hordes of zombies attacking the farm and lots of shooting/running/screaming.

2. it IS a season FINALE, and in order to create expectation for next season, some characters will become zombie-food.

As I previoulsy stated, I have not read the comics/graphic novels, so I have no idea of what will happen, and additionally, according to people who have read them, the writers have changed several plot lines/characters fates; therefore, I just said it would be interesting to guess their fates, and then, next Sunday, see how close we were to whatever actually happens....

Apparently in the comics Carl kills Shane. I think that would have been cooler than the way they did it although Rick really needed that kill to salvage his manhood in the eyes of viewers.

CG wrote: Ah ok, that all makes sense now.

And yeah, I definitely concur some people have to die to set things up for Season 3.

Ya'll are regular sleuths. You three should write the episodes.


On Celtics Blog someone pointed out something amazing about T-Dawg and thus, he cannot die. Match the following names with the following images:
T-Dawg, E-40, Antoine Walker

Couldn't post this image in the other post.