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Pierce for Kobe? 5 years 7 months ago #2318

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So...On Celticsblog.com they are absolutely DISGUSTED at the possibility of Pierce being traded for Kobe (Of course it won't happen). Go over there and read some of those comments. They think Pierce is about as good and that Kobe is a terrible teammate, etc. One good point is that both Kobe and Ray Ray play the 2 and they hate each other.

End of the day, you could never turn down Kobe if he was offered. Am I wrong here? KG and Kobe - Rings.
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Re:Pierce for Kobe? 5 years 7 months ago #2321

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Yeah... I saw that. I've been reading Celticsblog all day.

Actually, I wouldn't do this if I were the C's. First off, the obvious chemistry issues. The C's seem like they have a good group and you know what everyone says about Kobe. Secondly, it would have to be PP+Rondo+ ??? No way they do it for just those two is there? Who would play PG for the C's? How do Kobe and Ray Allen play together? I don't think I'd do that trade. Well... actually, I'd maybe do it if it was JUST PP, or maybe Ray Allen + Rondo + whatever else.

PP + Kobe + KG = the next 5 titles...
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Re:Pierce for Kobe? 5 years 7 months ago #2325

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Yeah... I saw that. I've been reading Celticsblog all day.

Actually, I wouldn't do this if I were the C's. First off, the obvious chemistry issues. The C's seem like they have a good group and you know what everyone says about Kobe. Secondly, it would have to be PP+Rondo+ ??? No way they do it for just those two is there? Who would play PG for the C's? How do Kobe and Ray Allen play together? I don't think I'd do that trade. Well... actually, I'd maybe do it if it was JUST PP, or maybe Ray Allen + Rondo + whatever else.

PP + Kobe + KG = the next 5 titles...

True, it seems the only way this would work is if Ray Allen was part of the trade...what else does Boston even have to offer? PP + RA + Danny Ainge suits up for LA??
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Re:Pierce for Kobe? 5 years 7 months ago #2333

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I can see why the Celtics would do it as KG and Kobe is better than KG, Ray, and Pierce, and once you've got those two locked up, you can put almost anyone around them and you'll have a contender. It will take a little more work for the Ceatles to be successful. (Did I really just use \"The Ceatles\"?)

Of course that's purely from a basektball standpoint. The chemistry/karma issue is definitely in favor of going with Paul and Ray.

However, I don't get why the Lakers would do that trade. The people at CelticsBlog are nuts. Pierce is a very good player. Kobe is a \"once every two decades\" player, even though he's a jerk. Kobe is at least twice as good as Pierce. Doing a straight-up deal like that would do nothing to improve their team. The Celtics have no young players, no picks, and no expiring contracts. So how does this help them?

Honestly, if the Lakers were looking to get the most out of a deal, we're probably the #1 trading partners going. Kobe would probably pitch a huge fit, so it would never happen. But basically, if you just hang onto Jefferson, we'd come out ahead in the deal. Kobe and Jefferson is better than Garnett, at least basketball wise. As far as the intangibles go, I think we all know KG is invaluable.

Theo, Foye, Green, Boston's pick, a future pick from us, whatever else it takes. Kobe and Jefferson would be a force to be reckoned with for sure. But like I said, Kobe in Minnesota will never happen. And actually, that's probably a good thing.
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Re:Pierce for Kobe? 5 years 7 months ago #2337

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DeROK wrote:
I can see why the Celtics would do it as KG and Kobe is better than KG, Ray, and Pierce, and once you've got those two locked up, you can put almost anyone around them and you'll have a contender. It will take a little more work for the Ceatles to be successful. (Did I really just use \"The Ceatles\"?)

Of course that's purely from a basektball standpoint. The chemistry/karma issue is definitely in favor of going with Paul and Ray.

However, I don't get why the Lakers would do that trade. The people at CelticsBlog are nuts. Pierce is a very good player. Kobe is a \"once every two decades\" player, even though he's a jerk. Kobe is at least twice as good as Pierce. Doing a straight-up deal like that would do nothing to improve their team. The Celtics have no young players, no picks, and no expiring contracts. So how does this help them?

Honestly, if the Lakers were looking to get the most out of a deal, we're probably the #1 trading partners going. Kobe would probably pitch a huge fit, so it would never happen. But basically, if you just hang onto Jefferson, we'd come out ahead in the deal. Kobe and Jefferson is better than Garnett, at least basketball wise. As far as the intangibles go, I think we all know KG is invaluable.

Theo, Foye, Green, Boston's pick, a future pick from us, whatever else it takes. Kobe and Jefferson would be a force to be reckoned with for sure. But like I said, Kobe in Minnesota will never happen. And actually, that's probably a good thing.


I probably forgot to say it, but yeah, there's no way LAL would even do Kobe for PP straight up (or any other combo with PP.) These Celtics-Kobe trades make NO sense for LA. There's nothing they can get. What a stupid original article that was by the guy from SI.com. Wow.

I wouldn't want Kobe on the Wolves. With that said, he'd veto the trade anyways. Thank god he's got that No Trade Clause.

Lastly, I think Chicago is the #1 trading partner for Kobe. They have almost as many assets and more proven players to trade. Plus, Kobe would love to play in Chicago. I'd say we are maybe the third or so best (hypothetical) trade partner.
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Re:Pierce for Kobe? 5 years 6 months ago #2425

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I probably forgot to say it, but yeah, there's no way LAL would even do Kobe for PP straight up (or any other combo with PP.) These Celtics-Kobe trades make NO sense for LA. There's nothing they can get. What a stupid original article that was by the guy from SI.com. Wow.

I wouldn't want Kobe on the Wolves. With that said, he'd veto the trade anyways. Thank god he's got that No Trade Clause.

Lastly, I think Chicago is the #1 trading partner for Kobe. They have almost as many assets and more proven players to trade. Plus, Kobe would love to play in Chicago. I'd say we are maybe the third or so best (hypothetical) trade partner.

At best we could be part of a 3 team deal, maybe we could acquire something of value from Chicago??
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Re:Pierce for Kobe? 5 years 6 months ago #2439

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very true. We dont' have to necessarily have to take the big bounty as long as we can add some kind of piece that helps as a facilitator. I'd give them Ratliff for Odom if the Lakers wanted an expiring.
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DeROK wrote:
very true. We dont' have to necessarily have to take the big bounty as long as we can add some kind of piece that helps as a facilitator. I'd give them Ratliff for Odom if the Lakers wanted an expiring.

Heck yeah, I'd definitely do that too. Odom is an awesome jack of all trades, plus I think he'd be a pretty good character guy/mentor.
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