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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #58930

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East
Rose
Wade
James
Amar'e
Howard

Reserves:

Rondo
Pierce
Allen
Felton
Horford
Granger
Garnett

West
Deron Williams
Kobe
Durant
Melo
Gasol (injury replacement)

Reserves:

Chris Paul
Aldridge
Griffin
Dirk
Ginobili
Westbrook
Zach Randolph
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59349

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So is KLove gonna make it? I honestly think he won't because of our putrid record. Yeah, he's got the stats, certainly, but players from non-winning teams just don't make the NBA AS game. It's a fact, look it up. Plus it's in LA, so I think Griffin gets the last spot. Love will probably be considered the biggest "snub" aka the "13th Man."
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59351

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Clippers also have a losing record, plus Blake is a Rook. I think he probably deserves it, as does Love, but between the two of them you have to give Love the nod.

No one in 30 years has done what Love is doing in terms of individual production and success. The All-Star game is primarily a showcase of individual talent and a recognition of individual success, so Love is the logical choice, although Blake is outstanding too. Love and Blake are better individual talents at this point in time than Aldridge, Duncan (yes I said it), Randolph, David West, etc.

Nowitzki's having a monster year so you have to keep him in there. Honestly, Melo isn't having a great year and his trade rumors are distracting their team and the league. 23/8 looks nice but not compared to what Blake Griffin and Kevin Love are producing, considering Melo is supposedly one of the elite guys in the league.

Gasol, meh. I guess you throw him in there as a C because people aren't ready to recognize the force that is Darko yet.

If you're only going to pick one PF as a backup it's gotta be Love- Griffin is a rookie and rookies don't make it, especially rookies from losing teams.

So you have 2 rules working against Blake, only 1 working against Love.
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59352

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Clippers also have a losing record, plus Blake is a Rook. I think he probably deserves it, as does Love, but between the two of them you have to give Love the nod.

No one in 30 years has done what Love is doing in terms of individual production and success. The All-Star game is primarily a showcase of individual talent and a recognition of individual success, so Love is the logical choice, although Blake is outstanding too. Love and Blake are better individual talents at this point in time than Aldridge, Duncan (yes I said it), Randolph, David West, etc.

Nowitzki's having a monster year so you have to keep him in there. Honestly, Melo isn't having a great year and his trade rumors are distracting their team and the league. 23/8 looks nice but not compared to what Blake Griffin and Kevin Love are producing, considering Melo is supposedly one of the elite guys in the league.

Gasol, meh. I guess you throw him in there as a C because people aren't ready to recognize the force that is Darko yet.

If you're only going to pick one PF as a backup it's gotta be Love- Griffin is a rookie and rookies don't make it, especially rookies from losing teams.

So you have 2 rules working against Blake, only 1 working against Love.

Good post, but that's not convincing enough. First off, the Wolves are much worse than the Clippers. Look how bad the Clippers started and how well they are playing now. And they've won 8 straight at home.

Yeah, rookies don't make it but players from epically horrible teams don't either (Love.) Also, the AS game is in LA so that greatly favors Griffin.

And Griffin is FAR MORE of a showman than Love, which goes in his favor.

That's three things for Griffin right there, compared to 1 for Love (stats.)

I could see them BOTH making it, but if only one of them makes it, then it will be Griffin over Love.
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59355

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College Wolf wrote:
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Clippers also have a losing record, plus Blake is a Rook. I think he probably deserves it, as does Love, but between the two of them you have to give Love the nod.

No one in 30 years has done what Love is doing in terms of individual production and success. The All-Star game is primarily a showcase of individual talent and a recognition of individual success, so Love is the logical choice, although Blake is outstanding too. Love and Blake are better individual talents at this point in time than Aldridge, Duncan (yes I said it), Randolph, David West, etc.

Nowitzki's having a monster year so you have to keep him in there. Honestly, Melo isn't having a great year and his trade rumors are distracting their team and the league. 23/8 looks nice but not compared to what Blake Griffin and Kevin Love are producing, considering Melo is supposedly one of the elite guys in the league.

Gasol, meh. I guess you throw him in there as a C because people aren't ready to recognize the force that is Darko yet.

If you're only going to pick one PF as a backup it's gotta be Love- Griffin is a rookie and rookies don't make it, especially rookies from losing teams.

So you have 2 rules working against Blake, only 1 working against Love.

Good post, but that's not convincing enough. First off, the Wolves are much worse than the Clippers. Look how bad the Clippers started and how well they are playing now. And they've won 8 straight at home.

Yeah, rookies don't make it but players from epically horrible teams don't either (Love.) Also, the AS game is in LA so that greatly favors Griffin.

And Griffin is FAR MORE of a showman than Love, which goes in his favor.

That's three things for Griffin right there, compared to 1 for Love (stats.)

I could see them BOTH making it, but if only one of them makes it, then it will be Griffin over Love.

There is a fair argument for Blake over Love... but, I guess I just don't see the coaches ignoring someone having a historic season. It kind of plays into the whole marketing strategy for the league... "Where Amazing Happens" if someone doing something that hasn't been done since 1982 or whenever isn't a priority then what is?

Both players are far more multi-dimensional than most of the other guys in the mix- Love is like the second coming of Laimbeer but less evil and a much better rebounder. Griffin is like Dominique combined with a young Karl Malone, with a little Hakeem mixed in.

Honestly both are deserving. We'll see.
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59357

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I could live with both of them making it, I just don't think it will happen. Maybe if Melo is traded to the East before the AS game...
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59360

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Blake is putting up ridiculous stats too averaging like 28 & 14 in January.
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59369

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When is the last time Griffin powered his team to an absolute dominant defensive masterpiece over Toronto? Because Kevin Love just did it. He is now the complete package. Done. All star. Hall of Fame.
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59385

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I see Kevin Love, Zach Randolph and LaMarcus Aldridge being the guys sweating it out. Griffin is in. His game is perfectly suited for an All Star game, he's earned it, his team has started winning as he's improved, plus the game is at his home stadium.
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59386

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I see Kevin Love, Zach Randolph and LaMarcus Aldridge being the guys sweating it out. Griffin is in. His game is perfectly suited for an All Star game, he's earned it, his team has started winning as he's improved, plus the game is at his home stadium.

Definitely concur.

Who replaces YAO? I thought it would be Gasol, but I was reading and some people think it could/should be Nene. That would suck for Love if Gasol doesn't start, because he'll still make the team regardless, and then KLove is doomed for sure.

P.S. Love the new signature LOL! :laugh:
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59413

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No way that dysfunctional Nuggets team gets two starters. The Nene thing is probably just a talker.
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59423

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Nene is a true center though, and damn good. Leading the league in FG% again.

Also, if KLove does NOT make the All-Star game, is he able to use that as motivation to completely tear up the league next year? Average like 25 and 17 or something beyond insane? That would be awesome if that was the effect of him getting snubbed.

I think it's probably about 50-50 right now regarding Love making it. Seems to be that he's getting a lot of pub around the league from media and fans. Unfortunately, it's the coaches that vote on the reserves and I think that's one spot he might not have the most support. Plus the whole terrible record thing we have going for us...
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59424

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Stupid fan voting has the Western lineup all messed up. It should be D-Will and Kobe at guard, Durant and Griffin at forward, and Nene at center. Blake gets the nod over Dirk because the game is in LA.
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Re: Simmons' Picks 2 years 4 months ago #59427

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I wouldnt be surprised either way. Love is probably going to get snubbed.

Im not sure Griffin makes it. I think it's LMA we need to worry about. Griff will be in the rookie game and will win the dunk contest even if he just did layups. Certainly enough "exposure." I think the coaches would only bend over backward to take a guy from a bad team if it were a statistically historic case like Loves. Certainly not a rookie.

Dirk and Gasol are locks for sure...but Duncan is only averaging 13 and 9....he could easily get left off in favor of his other teammates, Love, and LMA.
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College Wolf wrote:
Also, if KLove does NOT make the All-Star game, is he able to use that as motivation to completely tear up the league next year? Average like 25 and 17 or something beyond insane? That would be awesome if that was the effect of him getting snubbed.

That's pretty much what he already is averaging.
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