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Re: The Official 2011-2012 NBA Discussion Thread 1 year 4 weeks ago #83746

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The Magic really screwed up by not trading him at the deadline. They're probably going to end up with something a lot worse than they could have gotten.

This really is pretty funny.

sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie...cGs0cnBnBGludGwDdXME

I can definitely see and root for a Vince Carter, Vin Baker, Derrick Coleman-esque ending to this man's story. Fyck him. I sincerely hope that dirty, immature Bynum swiftly passes him in production next season. He's mean, he's physical, and he's improving. Dwight Howard is soft, immature, undedicated, and hasn't improved in 3 years.

I hope Cousins figures it out before Howard. I hope Hibbert becomes better. I hope Monroe and Pek become better. I hope Bizzymack becomes better.
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I really think Metta was just so amped he had no clue what he was doing. It doesn't look like he tried to do that to Harden consciously. As crazy as he is, that's not his style. He has to have beef with you to try to hurt you.

espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7843175
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Re: The Official 2011-2012 NBA Discussion Thread 1 year 4 weeks ago #83757

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roundhouse wrote:
The Magic really screwed up by not trading him at the deadline. They're probably going to end up with something a lot worse than they could have gotten.
Yep.

And they are going to lose a great coach this summer because of the entire ridiculous ordeal.

I just voted for the Bloguin year-end NBA awards. I can't believe it, but I put Andrew Bynum as the All-NBA 1st team Center. I never would have imagined myself doing that in a million billion years.
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I really think Metta was just so amped he had no clue what he was doing. It doesn't look like he tried to do that to Harden consciously. As crazy as he is, that's not his style. He has to have beef with you to try to hurt you.

espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7843175

Just seeing this now for the first time on Sportscenter, as I am typing this.

Really crazy. I don't know what to think here. It looks like he was celebrating, but also that it was intentional. Maybe it was just extreme spur of the moment and he (clearly) didn't think about it before nailing The Beard? I dunno... he deserves like a 5 game suspension probably. Especially since The Beard was concussed.

Too bad that had to happen. I like both of those guys. :(
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blogmaverick.com/2012/04/22/some-olympic-thoughts/

Cuban dropping knowledge as usual.
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There is no way is was a complete accident that happened mid-celebration like Ron's handlers told him to say. That's a complete wind-up and direct shot. I also think it was definitely not premeditated, he was just caught up in the moment. It was really unfortunate, because WOW was that a hard, dirty, inexcusable cheap shot. Watching it live I think my mouth was dropped wide open for a good 5 minutes after. Hopefully Beardman is okay.
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That is the most vicious elbow I think I have ever seen. It's 80's era NBA. The elbow was so ridiculous that it is almost humorous.
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His intent doesn't matter, either way he still jacked Harden in the head with a nasty elbow. I think he should get a suspension, but I also don't like the way Harden was up in his space while he was trying to celebrate.
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The West has some awesome playoff matchups, if the standings hold. Especially Clippers/Grizzlies should be great. The Lakers/Nuggets and OKC/Mavs should be good as well.

The East matchups are turrrible besides Celtics/Hawks. The Pacers against the Magic :sick: You'd have to pay me to watch that. Bulls/76ers and Heat/Knicks. Gross.
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7 games. Not bad imo.

Although some media peeps are complaining that they don't think it was harsh enough because of Artest's history of violence in the NBA.
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Yea, what matchups in the west! Start with SA v. Utah. Remember what doomed the Spurs last year? Memphis was too big and physical. The Jazz have 4 BIG dudes to wear Duncan’s ass out. If Ty Corbin is as great of an NBA mind as Lionel Hollins, he’ll pound that sumomabitch down low. They won’t win, but they have the horses to push it to 6 games and can have Duncan worn out by the time they meet the Clippers/Grizzlies. The Grizzlies in the 2nd round can beat them again. The Clippers? Eh, not so sure. I can’t say enough about my dude Al Jeezy, big Alco. A few of us idiots were adamant about keeping him and moving Love, so to see him do well is a bit redeeming. That system and those guys have him playing team ball. He’s putting forth effort on D (effort, not always quality D though…) and being a leader. I bet Kahn could have had Favors for D-Charge and Wes or something at the beginning of the year…like half of us said. Favors is that dude. Utah is officially my number 4 team (Wolves, Celtics, Robertcats, Mormons).

The Grizzle and Flop city? What about THAT matchup? I got the Grizzle in 7. My dudes Conley and TA are nothing to play with on defense. Chris Paul’s life is going to be hell fycking with them two. Then DAJ and his “I-bruise-easily” companion Blake have to contend with Marc and Z-Bo? Shiiiiiiiiiit (Clay Davis).

OKC and Dallas…I got OKC in 5. Poor Kidd is done and people talk about him like he’s not 2nd-4th best PG of ALL TIME. Dirk..eh, I’m not a believer.

Lakers and Denver. This is weird. Not a matchup I have ever thought about. What does Denver do well? Who guards Bynum and Gasol? Mozgov, Kosta and Faried…nein. I’d put Faried on Gasol – shut down. But those other two clowns are going to be eaten. Afflalo and Brewer making Kobe work for everything? I like it. Miller and Lawson have the edge on Sessions and…Blake or whoever. I think this will be closer than we think. Lakers in 7.
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Re: The Official 2011-2012 NBA Discussion Thread 1 year 3 weeks ago #83888

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College Wolf wrote:
7 games. Not bad imo.

Although some media peeps are complaining that they don't think it was harsh enough because of Artest's history of violence in the NBA.

Eh, it's so subjective. You can't make these types of "justice" decisions like that. It's also ludicrous that the NBA doesn't reveal the process they use to determine how punishments are handled.

Why should his past violence be weighed so heavily but the fact that he won the citizenship award NOT be considered?

What's the goal with suspending him 7 games? What do you/we/anyone expect to happen because of this? It was a black out, spur of the moment celebratory move. it's not like he finally got caught for his dirty ways or something. The Bynum suspension, on the other hand, was the tipping point of a pattern of erratic, intentional behavior that was predictable and has been avoided by him understanding the punishment of his behavior.

Speaking of Bynum, If he got 5 games for that vicious move and nothing for attempted homicide on Super Cool (I don't remember what he got for trying to kill beasley, probably a fine or a 1 game suspension), I'd say 7 games is about the max you can give him for something FAR less vicious than Bynum's but more impactful, simply because he's a brick house. It wouldn't have been a big deal if, say Rubio or Ridnour did it. Harden would have shrugged it off. But him swinging at half strength just does more damage.

I dunno. It's so subjective and irrational. Who cares. In hockey we celebrate it. just fine him a bunch and let's play ball. Now you diminish an already shitty NBA product by taking out a key role player on the most popular team.
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Re: The Official 2011-2012 NBA Discussion Thread 1 year 3 weeks ago #83889

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7 games is fine, but why isn't he suspended for playoff games? Basically the suspension doesn't mean anything, because he's only going to miss the final meaningless game of this season and the first 6 game of next season. This is sooo dumb. Stupid NBA.
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roundhouse wrote:
7 games is fine, but why isn't he suspended for playoff games? Basically the suspension doesn't mean anything, because he's only going to miss the final meaningless game of this season and the first 6 game of next season. This is sooo dumb. Stupid NBA.

You sure? Even more subjective and secretive. How can the fans ever feel there is "justice" if they never have a clue how this process actually happens? Who decided he gets to play in the playoffs? Ha, the first six games of next season are meaningless.
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roundhouse wrote:
7 games is fine, but why isn't he suspended for playoff games? Basically the suspension doesn't mean anything, because he's only going to miss the final meaningless game of this season and the first 6 game of next season. This is sooo dumb. Stupid NBA.

You sure? Even more subjective and secretive. How can the fans ever feel there is "justice" if they never have a clue how this process actually happens? Who decided he gets to play in the playoffs? Ha, the first six games of next season are meaningless.
Ummmmm... he IS missing the playoffs. Right? THat is what I thought. Where did you see he's not?

Should he miss the playoffs, that could actually hurt the Lakers. So I think that's a solid punishment and hope they lose first round!
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