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Hey Derok,

I need clarifications on the credits. Do we get 25 credits PER WEEK or just 25 credits starting now until it's gone?

Also, if we lose, I'm just gonna subtract $100 from everyone for simplicity sakes.


****TO EVERYONE****

If you miss a week of picks, I'm just gonna remove you from the totals because it will be too hard to update and keep track when people are missing weeks... so be forwarned.

HERE ARE MY WEEK 3 PICKS PER BILL SIMMONS:


Colts -6 (Texans) x5 (Pick of the Week)
Chargers -5 (Packers)
Chiefs -2.5 (Vikes) x2
Bills +16.5 (Pats)
Rams +3.5 (Bucs) x5
Lions +6.5 (Eagles) x5
Steelers -9 (Niners)
Jets -3 (Dolphins)
Cardinals +8 (Baltimore)
Bengals +3 (Seahawks) x1
Redskins -3.5 (Giants)x5
Browns +3 (Oakland)
Broncos -3 (Jags)
Carolina -4 (Atlanta) x2
Cowboys +3 (Chicago) (Cajones Pick of the week)
Titans +4.5 (Saints)

Baltimore -8
Indianapolis -6
Minnesota +2.5 x10
New York -3.5
Detroit +6.5 x5
Pittsburgh -9
Tampa Bay -3.5
Denver -3 x3
Cleveland +3 x4
Cincinnati +3
Washington -3.5
Dallas +3 x3
New Orleans -4.5
San Diego -5
New England -16.5
Atlanta +4

I don't know CW, taking the 10% hit on a loss makes it like real gambling. That's how you prove if you can actually pick well enough to make dough. That 10% is what makes it tough, cause everyone should average 50-50 on the picks based on the lines.

And you have 25 credits per week.

My Week 3 Picks:

IND -6
SD -5
NE -16.5 Cahones Call
STL +3.5
DET +6.5
NYJ -3
AZ +8
SEA -3
WAS -3.5 Pick of the Week
DEN -3
CAR -4
DAL +3
TEN +4.5
CLE +3
MIN +2.5
SF +9

To make things easier for CW, here's my money picks

WAS -3 x 10
SD -5 x 5
TEN +4.5 x 3
DET +6.5 x 3
CAR -4 x 2
ARZ +8 x 2

And just for kicks, here's my straight picks:

IND
SD
MIN
NE
STL
DET
PIT
NYJ
BAL
SEA
WAS
CLE
DEN
CAR
DAL
TEN

Last Week Straight: 11-5
Last Week Vs. Spread: 8-7-1
Last Week Money: +$400

Season Straight: 25-7
Season Vs. Spread: 19-10-3
Season Money: -$1,080

Pick of the Week: 1-1
Cahones Call: 1-0

DeROK wrote:

Fair enough, good point. I guess to me, if it ain't real gambling, it ain't real gambling. But I see where you are coming from. We can do the 10% hit... it doesn't really matter if it takes me more time since I'll tabulate these at work anyways.

Bears (-3) vs Cowboys
Bengals (+3) vs Seahawks
Bills (+16.5) at Pats
Broncos (-3) vs Jags
Cardinals (+8) at Ravens
Panthers (-4) at Falcons
Chargers (-5) at Packers
Jets (-3) vs Dolphins
Lions (+6.5) at Eagles
Raiders (-3) vs Browns
Rams (+3.5) at Bucs
Redskins (-3.5) vs Giants *Pick of the Week
Steelers (-9) vs Niners
Texans (+6) vs Colts *Cahones Call
Titans (+4.5) at Saints
Vikings (+2.5) vs Chiefs

Money Picks

Broncos (-3) vs Jags x 5
Chargers (-5) at Packers x 5
Panthers (-4) at Falcons x 6
Redskins (-3.5) vs Giants x 6
Vikings (+2.5) vs Chiefs x 3

CW and Withers - don't forget your pick of the week and cahones call!

And as far as Whiskey's picks. When I made the \"rules\" you could only have 1 pick that was over 5 credits and it maxed-out at 10 credits. You have two games at 6 credits.

Personally, there's no reason why I made the cut-off at those specific numbers. The main point of it was just to prevent people from putting too many eggs in one basket. You've obviously spread it out, so I don't really care that you'e got two bets at 6. You've actually spread it out more evenly than I have. I was just wondering if anyone had any suggestions about how we should regulate things.

The only reason we have to \"regulate\" is that if somebody was down, they could bet 25 credits on one bet the last two or three weeks and end up \"winning\" if they nailed them. You can do that since it's fake money and not think about it, but if it was real money you probably wouldn't be that bold. It's not such a big deal since this is a minor game, and maybe we should just let people do what they want. I personally play with those rules myself just to keep myself realistic. So whatever anyone thinks...

I don't mind \"regulating\" the fake money, it's more realistic as to how people would bet.

As for the \"Cajones Pick of the week\"... I just came up with something. How about, from this week on, for you to get the CPotW correct you have to pick an underdog... and they have to win outright. Not just cover the spread, but win. That's the only way you can win that pick each week. Sound good? It's much more \"Ballsy\" this way.

At first I liked the suggestion about the Cajones call, but then I was thinking... What's more likely, the Vikings winnning outright this week or the Patriots winning by more than 16.5? I would actually think the Viking winning.

But maybe your way is better since picking any underdog really isn't showing Cajones if they just have to cover... Tough decision. Seeing as we already have 50 different things going, we could always add \"Upset Special\" to the list. Mine this week would be the Vikings!

Fair enough... a good point. I think I'll just keep track of the \"Pick of the Week\" though for our standings, rather than the others. The Cajones pick just seems like one should either pick the team with the biggest spread or the crappiest team in the league to cover.

The way I pick my cajones call is to look at all my picks and figure out the one that goes most against conventional logic, yet at the same time I feel good about it. So if I picked the Falcons to cover, but was very iffy, I wouldn't make that my cajones call. This week with the Pats, it does happen to be the biggest spread, but last week picking them to beat San Diego by more than a field goal felt a little gutsy, yet at the same time I expected it to happen. But like you said, it's very subjective so I agree that we shouldn't keep track of it. Now....

Want to get things really complicated???

Actually I was just thinking about how the weekly picks has blossomed into this enormous thing. I was wondering if there was any way to quantify it all, and determine who is the true master of NFL Picks.

We'd have to do it all based on a points system. Here's what I came up with.

Straight Picks: 1 point for each correct

Against the Spread: 2 points for each correct pick, except for the Pick of the Week which gets you 5 points. Double points on the upset special if the underdog wins outright. So if an underdog is both your pick of the week and upset special and they win outright, you get 10 points.

Money Picks: 3 points for every $100 won or lost. So if you made $760, you'd get 22.8 points. If you lose $500, you get -15 points.

Then we keep a running tally of the points. I think this could help put things in perspective and help us determine who's actually doing the best.

We could figure out the points earned so far on just the spread picks and pick of the weeks for Week 2. Then do the points for whatever we have for Week 3 (so no straight picks or upset specials), then starting next week we'll keep track of everything.

You up for it?

Wow. That's incredibly awesome.

It's too be we didn't concoct all this greatness before the season started!!!! Ahhhhh, yeah I love your point system. I'm not sure I really want to keep track of all that though. If someone else (ahem Derok I'm sure it would most likely be you ahem) wants to keep track of all this I'm definitely down. It's pretty sweet and a cool way to try to figure out who truly is \"The Best.\"

I don't mind keeping track of these things. It's actually not as time consuming as it seems.