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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79755

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that pass was a thing of beauty!
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79756

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Just posted a game wrap to the front page.

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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79757

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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79758

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That was a sweet by Rubio!
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79761

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Wes: Seems to have a potential future as a defensive specialist. Solid D on Martin. Say what you will about relying on his athleticism to bail him out when he guesses wrong, but I have seen the kid play solid D on some very good scorers and the fact is that, while he doesn't have the handle or instincts offensively to take advantage of his athleticism, he is an elite athlete. He is quick and can elevate, and if he continues to concentrate on playing excellent defense and mistake free offense, he doesn't need to score 10+ per game to contribute. He has the physical ability and, I think, the desire to be a stopper. He needs to work on the mental and instinctive aspects to make that role his own. Big step forward, now if he can only break his past patterns of one step forward, two steps back. I continue to be Wes-optimistic, albeit very cautiously so.

Ridnour: solid shoint guard. Solid back up point guard. Like Beasley, when the tone of sharing the ball is set for the team by Rubio, Luke is a better player. Trolls who insist Luke is the purest of pure point guards notwithstanding, we all recognize that Luke is a knockdown shooter who likes to get his own shot a little too much and doesn't have an internal voice that tells him what good shots and what bad shots are. I like how his role has developed.

Barea: call me crazy, but there is room for Barea or Ridnour on this team. We play better when one or the other gets minutes next to Rubio, but not usually when both are splitting the majority of backcourt minutes (game before last they carried us, but that was an anomaly).

Beasley: carving himself an awesome niche as a 6th man. Getting less and less comfortable with the idea of failing to resign him, or trading him. He can be a more talented version of Lamar Odom.

Pekovic: guy has amazing touch near the basket for a dude who 600 years ago would have been hunted in the forests of the Balkans for being a bloodthirsty giant. One of my favorite guys. I'm sorry I doubted you, Pek.

Love: Good. Really good.

Rubio: pure basketball player. Shot not falling? Draw contact and get to the line. Find Pekovic under the basket. Disrupt the other team.

A final note for purported basketball pundits trolls who think that 6 TOs equals awful basketball:

One way to ensure you'll never turn the ball over is to never take risks. The easiest way to segregate the good turnovers from the bad is to look at where they are happening and where the ball is going.

If the ball goes out of bounds on an aggressive scoring pass (generally speaking, if it goes out of bounds on the baseline under the basket on a lob or bounce pass or so on) it's a GOOD turnover. While you don't want these in critical moments when the score is close, it's not a bad thing for a few of these to happen a game. It means you are pressing the attack against the defense. It's a mistake of COMMISSION.

If the ball gets stolen out front because your defender is pressuring you, or you throw the ball away to a wing defender, or, and this is a pet peeve, you throw a bounce pass on the perimeter and it gets picked off (the worst), this is a BAD turnover, because it is an error of OMISSION. You are allowing your opponent to take the ball from you rather than taking it to them.

I just want to make this clear because sometime people who don't know anything about hoops whine when someone misses a backdoor lob or drives to the basket and throws it away because their teammate isn't where he should be or doesn't have his hands ready. These are usually not bad plays unless it's the closing minutes of a close game. The pot odds are in your favor- if you make that play 10 times, 7-8 times you'll score. Given that players are human and make mistakes, you want these type of mistakes.
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79763

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Also- to respond to something hoopnuts said from the other thread... and call this a fatal flaw- I'm a proud guy- when someone has obviously studied a subject much longer and in more depth than you, accusing them of ignorance usually only makes one of you appear ignorant.

Telling someone like that who you have never met that they never played is an asshat thing to write. You don't know anything about my game. The rest of you guys if you ever want to play pick up ball in the metro area let me know.

In fact...
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79764

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espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320217010

Ohhhhh myyyyyy godddddd WWOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW Pekovic is awesome. Pekovic4MostImprovedPlayer. Is he already one of the better Centers in the entire league? Good win tonight. I love him.

That is all.
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79766

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College Wolf wrote:
espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320217010

Ohhhhh myyyyyy godddddd WWOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW Pekovic is awesome. Pekovic4MostImprovedPlayer. Is he already one of the better Centers in the entire league? Good win tonight. I love him.

That is all.

If Lin drops off, Pekovic should be a lock for MIP. If Lin keeps the awful Linnovative Lincompetents making up Lincredibly stupid catch phrases, then there is no way that Lin is not the Most Linproved Player of the Year.

And while I like Lin, I will vomit in my mouth every time someone says the Most Linproved.
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79767

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PS does anyone know the last 2 teammates to go for 30+/12+ in the same game? Have the Timberwolves EVER done this? KG and Gugliotta maybe?
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79768

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TrulyRaNd0m wrote:
Just posted a game wrap to the front page.

A Foundation to Build On

Nice, going to go check it out now!
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79769

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wolfenstein wrote:
A final note for purported basketball pundits trolls who think that 6 TOs equals awful basketball:

One way to ensure you'll never turn the ball over is to never take risks. The easiest way to segregate the good turnovers from the bad is to look at where they are happening and where the ball is going.

If the ball goes out of bounds on an aggressive scoring pass (generally speaking, if it goes out of bounds on the baseline under the basket on a lob or bounce pass or so on) it's a GOOD turnover. While you don't want these in critical moments when the score is close, it's not a bad thing for a few of these to happen a game. It means you are pressing the attack against the defense. It's a mistake of COMMISSION.

If the ball gets stolen out front because your defender is pressuring you, or you throw the ball away to a wing defender, or, and this is a pet peeve, you throw a bounce pass on the perimeter and it gets picked off (the worst), this is a BAD turnover, because it is an error of OMISSION. You are allowing your opponent to take the ball from you rather than taking it to them.

I just want to make this clear because sometime people who don't know anything about hoops whine when someone misses a backdoor lob or drives to the basket and throws it away because their teammate isn't where he should be or doesn't have his hands ready. These are usually not bad plays unless it's the closing minutes of a close game. The pot odds are in your favor- if you make that play 10 times, 7-8 times you'll score. Given that players are human and make mistakes, you want these type of mistakes.
Awesome post Wolfenstein, Howl to you.

P.S. That is how you drop some knowledge.
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79770

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wolfenstein wrote:
College Wolf wrote:
espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320217010

Ohhhhh myyyyyy godddddd WWOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW Pekovic is awesome. Pekovic4MostImprovedPlayer. Is he already one of the better Centers in the entire league? Good win tonight. I love him.

That is all.

If Lin drops off, Pekovic should be a lock for MIP. If Lin keeps the awful Linnovative Lincompetents making up Lincredibly stupid catch phrases, then there is no way that Lin is not the Most Linproved Player of the Year.

And while I like Lin, I will vomit in my mouth every time someone says the Most Linproved.
I like Lin, but I am already sick of him and the media/ESPN slobbering on his nuts. Annoying and exhausting.
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79771

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wolfenstein wrote:
PS does anyone know the last 2 teammates to go for 30+/12+ in the same game? Have the Timberwolves EVER done this? KG and Gugliotta maybe?
You can maybe find it on Basketball-Reference? Off the top of my head, I can't recall if/when it would have happened before...
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79772

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The last time it happened was in November of 2008, when inexplicably it happened TWICE in the same month (first Dirk and Josh Howard vs. NYK www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200811160NYK.html, then Al Harrington and David Lee vs. GSW www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200811290NYK.html). So yes, the last 2 times this happened, there was one legitimate player and one guy who makes you scratch your head.

Before that the last time was Kobe and Shaq in 2003.

The list of players who have had 30/12 in even one game is a who's who of NBA stars, not surprisingly. But it's amazing how many times Amare, Dirk, Duncan, Elton Brand, Boozer, Al Jeezy, Zach Randolph, Yao Ming, Chris Bosh, LeBron, and KG have gone off for 30/12 in the last 15 years. Some of those guys you say, sure, but some of them it's like... wow. Boozer is actually pretty elite looking at his career.

Also, Garnett and Duncan were both forces of nature from 2000-2007.

www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/...r_by_asc=&offset=600
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Re: Game Thread: Wolves @ Rockets...again 2/17/12 1 year 4 months ago #79773

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Also, Shaq never got 30/12 even once in his career since I have retroactively called him for travels and offensive fouls on every post move he made since entering the league in 1992. His corrected career totals of 5.5 ppg/4.8 rpg are not that impressive.

If I ever had access to Doc Brown's Delorean, I swear going back to 1990 and warning David Stern of the horrors that would result from not calling the 4 pivot hop step/charge against Shaq would be right at the top of my list, along with investing in Apple and preventing the Holocaust.
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