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The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84057

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We need more games. With the news that Kahn didn't trade Webster for Iggy (probably because he likes Webster better), it's time to scorn this man even more and collectively decide on and glorify his worst move. We'll make it a more brief version of the regular season player elim game.

-Each move starts with 4 points, signifying the start of Kahn's 4th year of sucktitude running this team.

-No need for a 6 hour time lapse between votes.

-If I missed any moves, we can add them the first few days

-Logic is in reverse. Give a +1 for the move you think is the worst, and a -1 for the move you think should be eliminated from consideration of worst move. I included his good move(s) for this reason. If a move gets to 0 it is eliminated from consideration. Remember, we are trying to glorify Kahn's sucktitude.

-Please add comments.

-This is not the optimism thread.

-If there are rule recommendations, we can change whatever. I realize roundhouse is the forum gamemaster and I may be stepping on toes.

For the move that is voted winner, I will make a certificate and send it to Kahn at the Wolves office, signifying his worst move.

Here are the moves:
4 Trading Miller/Foye for the 5th pick and picking Ricky Rubio
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
4 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
4 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
4 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Hiring Rick Adelman
4 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Turning the 20th pick in the 2010 draft into Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank)
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84063

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I'll go first to demonstrate

+1 The AR trade. Quite possibly one of the most ridiculous NBA transactions in the last decade, considering what the Knicks got, what the Wolves didn't and how many opportunities were squandered while Kahn chased AR for months like a serial rapist

-1. Rubio. Great move!

Here are the moves:
5 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
4 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
4 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
4 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Hiring Rick Adelman
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank)
3 Trading Miller/Foye for the 5th pick and picking Ricky Rubio
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84064

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+1 Failing to aquire a single useful veteran in the windows - still furious over Jamal Crawford
-1 Adelman
Here are the moves:
5 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
4 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
4 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
4 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
3 Hiring Rick Adelman
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
5 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank)
3 Trading Miller/Foye for the 5th pick and picking Ricky Rubio
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84067

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Try to reorder if you can to keep it looking good.

+1 Turning down Webster for Iguodala. Ridiculous. What does he expect to find for a significantly lesser price? This was a very worrisome news as we enter the offseason.

-1: Beasley move. Huge at the time. Didn't work out. I loved that Kahn took a gamble on him.

Here are the moves:

5 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
5 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
5 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
4 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
4 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Trading Miller/Foye for the 5th pick and picking Ricky Rubio
3 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley
3 Hiring Rick Adelman
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84069

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+ 1 Brewer move
- 1 Beasley - it was a low risk move. Fine by me.

Here are the moves:

6 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
5 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
5 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
4 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
4 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Trading Miller/Foye for the 5th pick and picking Ricky Rubio
3 Hiring Rick Adelman
2 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84072

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Brilliant! Love it, WW. Massive HOWL.

-1 The Foye/Miller for Rubio deal: I couldn't handle Foye or Miller, and Rubio is like the savior for this franchise. I still remember being at a bar in St. Louis watching the draft just going crazy when we got Rubio at #5. Thank you for that, KAHNman.

+1 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry: Aaaaand then 5 minutes later he drafts Johnny Flynn, who always had the "a few good national TV games, but looks like a small, unintelligent, and overall incomptetent NBA player to me" stink on him. What an emotional 10 minutes that was. KAHNned.


Here are the moves:

6 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
5 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
5 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
4 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Hiring Rick Adelman
2 Trading Miller/Foye for the 5th pick and picking Ricky Rubio
2 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84073

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+1 Drafting Wes Johnson. The "knock" on Wes before the draft was that he couldn't create his own shot. What else is a 2-guard good for?

-1 Miller/Foye for #5 (Rubio). No brainer. I'd trade two role players every year for the #5.


Here are the moves:

6 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
5 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
5 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
5 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Hiring Rick Adelman
2 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley
1 Trading Miller/Foye for the 5th pick and picking Ricky Rubio
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84074

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+ 1 failing to trade the #2 before it turned into Fat-jeff-green Derrick Williams.
-1 Miller/Foye for #5 (Rubio). Just get this out the way now.

Here are the moves:

6 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
5 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
5 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
5 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Hiring Rick Adelman
2 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley

ELIMINATED
0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio-Kahn's best move
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84079

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Hahahahahaha this is awesome! Very well done WW, a huge Howl to you!

The saddest thing is that it seems like there should be even MORE terrible moves by Kahn...


+ Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."

- Hiring Adelman

Here are the moves:

6 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
6 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
5 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
5 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
2 Hiring Rick Adelman
2 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley

ELIMINATED
0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio-Kahn's best move[/quote]
Question: "Hey Antoine Walker, why do you shoot so many 3's?"

Answer: "Because there are no 4's."
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84081

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Well there is a free space anyone can use to fill in something I forgot.

We could also give him the Barea/Ridnour signings as decent moves.

I did forget about the Sessions/Delonte West incident....or the Webster move. Plenty of options!
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+ Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities:

Yep, I was at a summer luncheon with season ticket holders where KAHNman went on and on about his upcoming "windows of opportunity". And everytime we acquired an expiring contract or made a seemingly unreasonable trade, we were told that these were trade chips and we needed to wait for the other shoe to fall. KAHNned.

- Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley. I have no regrets with this one, even though Beas may have technically underacheived here. It was a high reward/low risk move.


Here are the moves:

7 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
6 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
5 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
5 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
2 Hiring Rick Adelman
1 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley

ELIMINATED
0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio-Kahn's best move
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+Drafting Flynn: terrible decision in every way.
-Nude photos of GT: his 2nd best move after the Rubio trade.


Here are the moves:

7 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
6 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
6 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
5 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
2 Hiring Rick Adelman
1 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley

ELIMINATED
0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio-Kahn's best move
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Re: The 2012 David Kahn Sucktitude Elimination Game 1 year 3 weeks ago #84090

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NOTE: Edited to include RH's picks

Is the "Windows of opportunity" argument really a bad "move"? It's a terrible series of non-moves...Isn't like saying his worst move is not finding another alpha player to but alongside Love Rubio?

+ Turning down M-Webbie for Iggy

- Hiring Adelman. Solid.

Here are the moves:

7 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
6 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
6 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
6 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
1 Hiring Rick Adelman
1 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley

ELIMINATED
0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio
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When you look at just a sampling of Kahn's body of work, isn't it that much easier to see how horrible this guy is?

+1: AR trade. Again, it's as if he were holding out for LeBron. He waited 4 months and used $11 million in cap room to acquire a 12th man. The entire series of events surrounding this move is just truly extraordinary

-1: Lord Adelman

The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

7 Failing to acquire a useful player with his cap room over NINE separate NBA trade/deadline/draft/free-agency "windows of opportunities."
7 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
6 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
6 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash
1 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley

ELIMINATED
0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio
0 Hiring Rick Adelman
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+1: Big Al trade
-1: Beas trade

The David Kahn Hall of Fail:

7 Signing Ramon Sessions to a 4-year deal, trading him to the Cavaliers for Delonte West less than a year later, and buying him out. Both players are now starters on playoff teams.
7 Trading Brewer, Koufos, and $11 million in cap room for Anthony Randolph while fascilitating Melo to NY
6 Turning down Webster for Iguodala
6 Drafting Flynn in general, but also over Stephen Curry
5 Drafting Wes Johnson over DeMarcus Cousins
5 Failing to trade the #2 pick in the 2011 draft for a useful player
5 Trading Al Jefferson for cap room and 2 non-lottery 1st round picks
4 Signing Kurt Rambis to a 4-year contract, and wasting 2011 picks to gather cash to pay his buyout
4 Signing Darko to a 4-year, $20 million contract extension
4 Trading back the 20th pick in the 2010 draft to get Lazar Hayward, who was traded to OKC for 2 second round picks that will likely be in the bottom 58.
4 (Fill in the blank/free space/forgotten move)
3 Acquiring the nude photos of Glen Taylor he has used as blackmail to keep his job for a future first rounder and cash


ELIMINATED
0 Trading 2 second rounders for Michael Beasley
0 Trading Miller/Foye for 5th pick & picking Rubio
0 Hiring Rick Adelman
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