Ben Gordon has one more year on his contract @ $13 million than Maggette, which is a tough pill to swallow. On the other hand, he's the superior player and Charlotte desperately need scorers. Also by the time his final year rolls around all of their other bad contracts will be off the books except for Ty Thomas (lol).

I'll give slight advantage to the Bobcats, but it's mostly just a wash. I wouldn't mind Gordon on the Wolves because I think he's slightly underrated and cap space will be meaningless to us very soon. Darko + Wes for Gordon would have been fine by me.

EDIT: Oh wow didn't even see the Bobcats got a 1st round pick as well. Now I really like this trade for them a lot.

And the protection on that Detroit pick drops off after two seasons (pick 1 protection? Why bother?)

I don't mind the Budinger trade at all. The Love ETO has set an artificial window for the team, so they really can't stuff around having 6 or 7 rookie scale deals every season. They need guys that can produce immediately.

Budinger can give the team something straight away in an area of need and is young enough to be a Wolf long term if it works out. I'd prefer him to Kevin Martin to be honest; Martin's best is behind him.

I reckon Webster is our main trade chip now, which isn't saying much. Might get us back into the 20's or the early second round.

Can't see DWIll going either, bad fit or not. Kahn took more than two seasons to give up on an outright bust in Jonny Flynn and Wes Johnson is still around. DWill is a competent player, even if he is being misused. He'll get another year to struggle along as a part of the SF platoon. At the #2 salary slot.

Anyone who sees this as a Kahn move has blinders on. This was clearly Rick Adelman-driven. I'm not necessarily saying that is a good thing, but it sorta matters. I fully believe Kahn went out with the express purpose of getting Chase specifically. It wasn't like the deal "fell in his lap." Be rational.

However, the discussion CW started yesterday on Chase's contract relative to a #18 pick, and fleshed out by DFS is making a lot of sense and is a really fair consideration in this. Regardless, capspace is no longer as critical to the Wolves' rebuilding plans.

On that note, it always makes me laugh when fans get excited about trades "saving the owner money." Total Kool-Aid thinking. Not anyone here, just when reading around. Ridiculous.

AusWolf wrote:
AusWolf! My man.

Agree Kahn is keeping D-Will and it will bite him in the face. Good to see you Auswolf. Stay awhile.

The team to watch is the team we just enabled and traded with. I will give a +10 to the anti-trade group because we just gave Houston another chip. They are poised for a big offseason and will likely make a major acquisition... ya know, because that's what playoff teams DO.

Houston is our primarily rival for the 8th seed. Along with Utah but they rarely make major offseason moves and are just consistently "on par,"

This is why Kahn HAS to get an above average player, such as Iggy/Pau, otherwise making the playoffs is going to be very difficult. We can't count on Rubio to be back to his old self until 2013 and need some players to fold the fort until he returns. Most of the roster remains disgusting.

WallyWorld wrote:
I think that is an assumption as well. IMO KAHNman saw Air Bud drop 35 in person, becaome enamored with him (as KAHNcer is one to do) and figured he found a diamond in the rough that would fit well on our team. Adelman also liked him...KAHN obviously liked this, he most definitely wants to get on Rick's good side.

BonK wrote:
Who knows? But it's always fun speculating on the Kahn office politics. Remember when we did a "choose your own adventure" in the forums a few years ago on the McHale regime? We should do that again.

It's a bad trade for a decent player. Not to toot my own horn, but those 8 words sum it up perfectly. I am on this ship now, officially.

I fear the imminent non-activity. Given what Portland and Houston are about to do, the Wolves will absolutely miss the playoffs again without a major asset acquired.

Can we start Martell Webster trade ideas now? His contract as an asset becomes void in 4 days.

Prediction: Kahn keeps him for next year. And I'm sad I will be out of internet range on that day so I will not be able to partake in the wrath that occurs on these forums when it happens.

God no. If martell doesn't get traded as an asset fine. But if his contract doesn't get voided. god, what is wrong with Kahn?!!?? Don't answer that....

But anyway, given we are the timberwolves, we probably still have to overpay for talent, esp higher end talent, so I'd be very happy to take on Iggy's contract or maybe even ben gordon if it was like wes/webster for gorodon. But right now the sad thing is we pay guys that are so so so shitty. Wes + webster + wayne = 10 mil. 10 mil can get a very very good player. I'd trade the above 3 for K-mart anyday, even though K-mart is overpaid. Sigh..

zookeeper wrote:
With only a late 2nd round pick that will be used on a guy named Woefnwawfafweaioaky Awioiowmaawefafemiski or something, Kahn should be up all night working the phones finding a suitor for that "instant savings" contract. It could be a critical part of a deal for a larger contract. From the Wolves' standpoint, NOTHING worthwhile will come from the $$ created and NOTHING will come from keeping Martell. If he doesn't use the contract it is a big loss of a quality asset.

So, therefore, Kahn will not use it as it should be used.

Kahn doing what makes the least sense: The only certainty in life other than death.

daddyfatsax wrote: Word! Long time no see... great to (hopefully) have ya back!

BonK wrote: I can totally buy that reasoning. The exact same things happened with Webster and Tolliver. At least, what Bonk said above is just as likely as Adelman demanding that Kahn go out and acquire Budinger. That's nowhere near a lock as to what happened.

Kahn blows.

WallyWorld wrote: I have no expectations that anything other than the above will happen. Kahn has proven time and time again how worthless he is.

College Wolf wrote:
Stuff is going to happen in the next couple of days and when all is said and done, Adelman is going to make sure he doesn't have to start Ridnour at SG next year. Our roster is going to be better next year and we are going to be in the playoffs. Believe, guys, believe!

Tod Murphy wrote:
Yeah, it looks like the 'Wolves are going to sign a guy who hasn't played in two years to start at PG. Good luck with that.

There will be some darn good guys available at #18. We could use a handful of them... and at a nice 5 year deal with team options. So damn depressing.

www.nbadraftblog.com/2012-articles/june/...draft-version-1.html