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The End of "24" 2 years 11 months ago #46839

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So did anyone watch "24" this season, and of course, the last episode of the series?

I thought this season was pretty decent, if you don't pay attention to the time frame. Like, each "real time hour" episode could be days or weeks in real life. The amount of stuff that happens is just absurd. The first three seasons were sooooo awesome and griping because the minutes between stuff happening was legitimate, and you were always wondering if he'd be able to complete his next task on time. Then the past few seasons its all this stuff with nukes and traveling all over the country and whatever, and there's no way that stuff would happen in an hour, let alone one day.

So, in that frame of mind I liked this last season. Still, sooooo much stuff happens which is kind of ridiculous, but entertaining none the less.

Apparently they are still going to do a movie to finish up "24" completely? Not really sure what direction they'll go with that... so Jack escaped and he is just going to try and kill a bunch of Russian guys to get his revenge or what? He already had his chance to do that and didn't. If it's a totally unrelated storyline that would be kind of dumb too.
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Re:The End of "24" 2 years 11 months ago #46843

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You pretty much nailed it Mr. Wolf. For me, the single most intense moment of the season came when the suicide bomber blew himself up in the hyberbolic chamber. Right up until that happened, I had found myself wondering why I was even watching this season. After that, the show was back and almost as strong as the first two seasons, timeline issues aside.

Speaking to the finale, I really can't decide whether I loved it or if it sucked. I guess that means that they did well. I'll proudly say that I didn't cry while Jack thanked and said goodbye to Chloe. I definitely thought, "If I was the crying type, this would be a good time to let loose." I didn't even cry at the end of Old Yeller, so 24 was out of the question. Some part of me wanted to see Jack kill Richard Nix...err...Charles Logan, but I guess I'll be happy with him suffering permanent brain damage. Another part of me was happy to see Jack return to humanity instead of ending the show as an animal. Given all he's been through, he needed a hero's sendoff. Two scenarios presented alternatives that would allow for that. They used one such ending. The other would have mirrored the death of Jack's Great-great-great-great-great-great...Grandfather, Maximus.
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Re:The End of 2 years 11 months ago #46845

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Good stuff Birdbrain, and welcome to the forums! Howl!

Wait... that suicide bomber scene happened THIS season!?!? Holy shit, it seems sooooooooooooo long ago. And that's exactly what has been wrong with the past few seasons of 24. I can't believe that happened in "one day." Fail right there. But it was cool when he went kablooey.

I liked the finale, but didn't love it. Jack going rogue was the best thing about the past few seasons, but far. Whether or not it was "in his character", is to be debated. I don't think he'd go crazy like that, but maybe he had finally had enough after all the shit he's ever been through. Who knows. Still... seems weird he'd go all out because Renee Walker of all people was killed. Whatever. They needed to do something like that and had nothing left to work with after all these seasons.

Chloe being the leader of CTU was laughable, but again, oh well.

I didn't cry at the end or anything near that, but I thought it was a good way to end the show.

Now about the movie... where do they go with it?
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Re:The End of "24" 2 years 11 months ago #46846

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The finale was the first episode I'd watched since giving up on the show 3 seasons ago. I enjoyed it. The fact that it was just a regular episode was nice. They didn't get into the sappy stuff.

As always everything with the White House is horrible and unwatchable. I wish the % Jack content had been higher during the last hour.

Oliver (2 yo) looked up at the TV when Jack knocked someone out pisol whip style. "Whoa"
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Re:The End of "24" 2 years 11 months ago #46848

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Three steps back. It was THAT Renee that caused Jack to go off the deep end!!! Baahahaha.
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Re:The End of 2 years 11 months ago #46849

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I've got serious concerns about this movie. I heard (or maybe I just thought) at one point that it might be a prequel of sorts. I can't hope enough that this isn't the case. The best thing that could have happened to the series would have been if Jack had died in season two, before he reached superhuman status. Once that happened, he died twice, but nobody actually expected him to stay dead. (Think about how ridiculous that statement sounds.) Even when Chloe shot him on Monday, I figured that he'd end up alright. (And an hour later, he was running - not walking - away from the drone with little sign of damage.) Hell, Tony came back after being dead, and we just shrugged it off. Regardless, the beauty of 24, especially early in the show's run, is that anybody could die at any time, which brings me back to my initial point. If the movie is a prequel, we'll already know which characters are going to live by virtue of watching the show.

That said, even if the show takes place after the series, it's still hard to imagine a scenario where they would kill him because if the movie is a hit, they'll want a sequel. The only time that it actually made sense to kill Jack was on Monday. Chloe shooting him would have been a fantastic way for him to die (at the hand of a friend instead of a terrorist or government), but they couldn't pull the trigger, so to speak. Maybe Jack can team up with John McClane, and they can just shoot people for two hours. It'll be like 300, only 2. And entertaining.
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Re:The End of 2 years 11 months ago #46850

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pants wrote:
Three steps back. It was THAT Renee that caused Jack to go off the deep end!!! Baahahaha.

HAHAHAHA yep!

She came back, they did some undercover stuff together for CTU/the President/to save America and in the meantime find out they are in love with each other. They finish their missions and try to "retire" and live the rest of their lives happily in love. Unfortunately, she is quickly murdered by the dirty Russians (sniper, POW!) and Jack goes loco. He attempts to kill everyone involved, as well as uncover the massive conspiracy headed by one of the worst presidents ever (bitch lady.)

And then you saw the last episode.

The end.
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Re:The End of 2 years 11 months ago #46852

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birdbrain wrote:
I've got serious concerns about this movie. I heard (or maybe I just thought) at one point that it might be a prequel of sorts. I can't hope enough that this isn't the case. The best thing that could have happened to the series would have been if Jack had died in season two, before he reached superhuman status. Once that happened, he died twice, but nobody actually expected him to stay dead. (Think about how ridiculous that statement sounds.)

- Yep, exactly.

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Even when Chloe shot him on Monday, I figured that he'd end up alright. (And an hour later, he was running - not walking - away from the drone with little sign of damage.) Hell, Tony came back after being dead, and we just shrugged it off. Regardless, the beauty of 24, especially early in the show's run, is that anybody could die at any time, which brings me back to my initial point. If the movie is a prequel, we'll already know which characters are going to live by virtue of watching the show.

That said, even if the show takes place after the series, it's still hard to imagine a scenario where they would kill him because if the movie is a hit, they'll want a sequel. The only time that it actually made sense to kill Jack was on Monday. Chloe shooting him would have been a fantastic way for him to die (at the hand of a friend instead of a terrorist or government), but they couldn't pull the trigger, so to speak. Maybe Jack can team up with John McClane, and they can just shoot people for two hours. It'll be like 300, only 2. And entertaining.

- A prequel movie would suck. I don't want that AT ALL. Hopefully no one does.

But as you said, if its a movie after the show, then where do they go with it? Maybe something about his daughter and grandchild being endangered? Not sure what else they can even do...
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Re:The End of 2 years 11 months ago #46853

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The only way they'll ever kill Jack is in similar fashion to Bruce Willis's death in Armageddon. A selfless blaze of glory that saves the world. Certainly he won't die from a handgun wound. That'd just be silly. :dry: :blink: :P

As for the movie I'd guess other than starting it with Jack on the run (if it is set after the show) there will be little link to the previous season. They'll use better actors and they won't want alienate fans who aren't fully caught up.
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As for the movie I'd guess other than starting it with Jack on the run (if it is set after the show) there will be little link to the previous season. They'll use better actors and they won't want alienate fans who aren't fully caught up.

Good points. I think Jack needs to die. It just seems right. And they need to wrap up this epic series and give it some final closure. You can't have a "what if" ending where Jack just runs off in the sunset and leaving everyone wondering...
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Re:The End of 2 years 11 months ago #46858

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The saddest part of the show was Renee being killed. Not because I particularly liked Renee, but at that point, it became abundantly clear that there would be no Cinemax ending with Kim and Renee. I was also holding out hope for a super special guest appearance from Michelle Desleror maybe Kate Warner.

Come to think of it, maybe we're all expecting the wrong kind of movie...
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The saddest part of the show was Renee being killed. Not because I particularly liked Renee, but at that point, it became abundantly clear that there would be no Cinemax ending with Kim and Renee. I was also holding out hope for a super special guest appearance from Michelle Desleror maybe Kate Warner.

Come to think of it, maybe we're all expecting the wrong kind of movie...


Hahahahahahahaha oh man..........

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Re:The End of 2 years 11 months ago #46861

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Alright, so let's say Jack dies. How brutal would it have to be for you to be convinced that he wouldn't be miraculously saved in time for a sequel? Blowing himself to smitherenes, as Pants alluded to is about the only sort of death that would leave me convinced, and even then, it would have to be graffic and not just an implication on the part of the film. (For example, when that kid blew himself up, he ran off screen to go boom. If that happened, the writers could conceivably explain that without Jack even being scratched.)
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birdbrain wrote:
Alright, so let's say Jack dies. How brutal would it have to be for you to be convinced that he wouldn't be miraculously saved in time for a sequel? Blowing himself to smitherenes, as Pants alluded to is about the only sort of death that would leave me convinced, and even then, it would have to be graffic and not just an implication on the part of the film. (For example, when that kid blew himself up, he ran off screen to go boom. If that happened, the writers could conceivably explain that without Jack even being scratched.)

I think his head would have to be physically detached from his body onscreen for me to believe it. And yeah, anything else just leaves the door open...

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Re:The End of 2 years 11 months ago #46872

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I tried watching 24 a few times but to me it seems like a crappier version of an action movie.
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