Holy crap.... In subtitles. Check this out!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3j363HWQM

That was awesome. I have never really payed any attention to him play but this will overshadow any skill that he does have. I can't believe he said that about the ref having a kid daughter. I wonder if he will get suspended from games in the NBA. He was just signed in Memphis too. I wonder what they are thinking. Darko and Marbury should do an interview together. Wouldn't that be awesome to watch?

mwithers wrote:
I guess this article answers my question.

Well...the more fun thing is, that he got away with a 10.000€ (~ 13.000$) fine for that. I do not know what he would have gotten if he did that in the NBA, but I guess the penalty would have been more harsh.

Btw.: Serbia WAS really screwed over the match by the refs, but that should be no excuse. As a professional, you gotta have yourself under better control, bottom line. If you are not satisfied with the refs, fine. But there are a million ways to express your discontent in other words.

But after all: I have always thought that even professional players, especially after an emotional loss, should be left alone by the press for at least an hour or so to calm down. They might be gifted athletes, but not all of them are that smart to watch their words all the time.

THANKS to CW for the link, although I have seen it in German TV already...without subtitles, but I have an assistant who is from Serbia and she translated it for me !

mwithers wrote:
I imagine there has GOTTA be some kind of reprecussions for what he said. You can't just say things like that in this day and age. Wow... that was crazy! Is Darko approaching the mythical \"Marbury plateau?\" I thought Marbury was alone in his craziness...

Sanyarin wrote:

What happened to Serbia during the game? Did you watch it? Just bad calls or what?

Also, I totally agree that the media should leave players alone for a little while after games rather than just sticking microphones in their faces immediately after a tough loss.

College Wolf wrote:
I would imagine that he will get fined by the team if not by the league. But, I wouldn't doubt if there was a small suspension also. He isn't far behind Marbury now.

@ College Wolf:
Yeah, I have seen the game and there really was some strange officiating. Most important thing to say, nontheless, is that the Serbians had every chance to win the game for good before it went to overtime. But extremly poor shot selection and some other mistakes made them loose the comfortable lead. As always: Before holding the refs responsible, take a deeeep breath and think if you could not have played better, making this one decisive call absolutely meaningless...but anyway:

Once the game went into overtime, the refs really mad some very dubious decision. I have noticed at least three very obvious hard fouls against Darko that were not called by the refs, opposing to some ticky-tack calls in favor of the Greeks. I can also remember that at least two times, a loose ball was knocked out of bound by the Greeks who were then awarded possession nonetheless. To put it in a nutshell: No really unfair calls, but many so-so decision piled up against Serbia. If you look at the big picture, I said the refs did not treat both teams equally...

Stange side note: In the two games I saw from Serbia, Marco Jaric...yes, our Marco Jaric...played really well, made smart decisions with the ball and showed a decent stroke...yeah, I know, but I SWEAR it was Marco Jaric !

@ MWithers:
I do not know...wouldn't that be kind of unfair?? He was already punished by the FIBA, if he would be punished again by the NBA...don't you have this rule of \"double jeopardy\" or something in the USA that prevents being charged / punished twice for the same crime? Would that not be a similar case. If the Grizz would fine him additionally, I could understand, because he is their employee and everything he does falls back on them...but that would be more some sort of contractual penalty, not an official punishment by the leauge.

If that could be done, even more NBA players would stay away from the FIBA-Tournaments, because they would fear to have two authorities having power over them at once and both issuing fines or suspensions. That would suck! In my opinion: Whatever happens in or after NBA games should be judged by the NBA. But when the players are on international tournaments, the FIBA has to be the lonely force that issues penalties!

Sanyarin wrote:
I understand you sentiments. However, those players are representing the NBA no matter where they are playing at the time. If they are in the NBA, their name is part of the NBA and therefore representing the NBA. I guarantee that if he wasn't in the NBA, I wouldn't know who he was. His name is familiar because of the NBA. The whole thing negatively affects the NBA, why wouldn't they punish him.

@ MWithers:
Yeah, I see the problem of being some sort of representative and tarnishing the image and so on. That is why I would have less of a problem with the Grizz issueing a fine or other punishment. But like I said above...the franchise is the employer of the player and therefore wields another kind of power over the him as the league does.

But those things always work in both ways and what if we switched sides on this issue? Darko, Manu, Dirk and dozens of other international players are not only players in the NBA, but they are mostly still members of their national sports organisations, like in Germany, the DBB (Deutscher Basketball Bund) who have the same power over the players as the NBA does. Therefore, they are representatives of their national organisations as well, even when they play in the USA. What if those authorities could issue fines and suspensions for flagrant fouls or other misbehaviour those players commit during the NBA season? That would be very weird indeed, would it not be? Or what would you say if the FIBA would banish...like Kobe from the 2008 Olympics because he was an alledged sex offender or Melo for not being able of throwing a man's punch (could not think of another example so fast) if he had to punch somebody after all, because having someone of that character would throw a bad image on the games of piece and friendship?

Besides the employer, there can always be just one sports authority having power over the player and that must be the one who is responsible for the game the player actually is involved in. Otherwise, this would lead to a flurry of double penalties and competence struggles.

Sanyarin wrote:
This was not during a game though. It was after. It is not something that happened on the court, it happened off the court. If he threw a punch during a game in this tournament, then I could understand. But it was a post game interview. I think that it is different because he wasn't on the court.

As far as what the FIBA should do in Kobe's situation. I don't know. But I also don't know what type of financial obligations each team that goes to the olympics has to the FIBA. As far as I know, it is not the same type of organization as the NBA.

Sanyarin wrote:
That's a really good point. Man, Sanyarin, you really know your NBA, and considering you are from Germany and all, it is mind-blowing! You continue to impress me...

@ Myself
Rereading my post in your quotes, I noticed I spelled \"peace\" like \"piece\". Well ok, I guess you understood. It's not my native language, y'know !

@ MWithers
I guess we won't agree on this one, but that's what forums are for: Sharing different opinions with interesting people.

You have an argument with that \"inside / outside of games\" thought, but as you stated yourself, that only goes so far as Melo's suckerpunch. With Kobe, to stay with my quickly thought of example, it is different. But even if I would go with your argument, I would still object any power of the NBA over the player in Darko's case.

Besides all other arguments of mine, I think it would be quite difficult to say, the lonely jurisdiction of the FIBA would end as soon as the last whistle was blown and from this second on, all organisations somehow connected to the player could issue their own fines. If Darko had done the same, but during an interview at halftime, there would not be any power of the NBA at all, but once of a sudden, one second after the game, there should be? That seems strange, difficult to handle and guarantee for my feared competence struggles. Any actions connected to the game, like the stuff Darko did, should only be treated as belonging to the game.

When it comes to the differences between the FIBA and the NBA, this would be quite difficult to explain and I don't want to bore you. But just let me state that, for a European...or better: someone outside the USA, the FIBA is considered the world's highest authority when it comes to Basketball issues. But like I said before, in my opinion, this is not so much a question of hierarchy, but of clear and easily determined competences to avoid unfair treatment of the player and abritrariness of the different organisations, fining players for stuff that happened far from their territorial and organisational borders, even banning them for games, that are in no way connected to the one the incident happened at.

But like I said, we will probably not reach an agreement on that !

@ BonK
Thanks you very much. Your words mean very much to me!

My initial thoughts while watching this was that it was some sort of gag video. Sometimes the way Eastern Europeans speak makes it sound like they're angry to us when they really aren't. I thought somebody found this clip and then added some ridiculous captions to it.

I guess I was wrong. Wow, that's some pretty insane stuff! I don't know what the NBA will do. If it weren't for the little girl line that was completely awful, they might've ignored it. That one pushed it over the top though.