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RealGM - CBA Idea 2 years 4 months ago #57274

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This guy has done another good CBA article. Super high level is that a NFL style hard cap won't be coming so lets sort out a deal that makes keeps the doors open on bad teams and the players can live with.

Right now it is hard to get a feel for where it is going since the owners and players are in dick mode right now.
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Re: RealGM - CBA Idea 2 years 4 months ago #57333

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That's some good reading there. I really like that guy's work.

Those ideas certainly seem feasible, and reasonable, to me. There's no way the owners will get away with what they want to do in their entirety, and the players have already said they are willing to make concessions.

If they want to avoid a lockout enough, it should be able to get done. Problem is it sounds like the owners really truly WANT a lockout. :(
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Re: RealGM - CBA Idea 2 years 4 months ago #57334

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College Wolf wrote:
That's some good reading there. I really like that guy's work.

Those ideas certainly seem feasible, and reasonable, to me. There's no way the owners will get away with what they want to do in their entirety, and the players have already said they are willing to make concessions.

If they want to avoid a lockout enough, it should be able to get done. Problem is it sounds like the owners really truly WANT a lockout. :(

Well we are in the typical part of the negotiation where both sides ask for 300% more than they actually hope to get. Heaven forbid a union negotiations just start with a reasonable contract (looking at both sides).

The NBA thrives on personalities. This isn't really the case with the NFL. You can't have a system that doesn't reward maintaining continuity.

Everyone in pro sports is very very slowly wrapping their heads around the new world where teams don't triple in value in 10 years. They stay constant. The business is mature. I love that guys note about how every year of the contract must be the same. That way shitty GM's can't leverage the future.
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Re: RealGM - CBA Idea 2 years 4 months ago #57337

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College Wolf wrote:
That's some good reading there. I really like that guy's work.

Those ideas certainly seem feasible, and reasonable, to me. There's no way the owners will get away with what they want to do in their entirety, and the players have already said they are willing to make concessions.

If they want to avoid a lockout enough, it should be able to get done. Problem is it sounds like the owners really truly WANT a lockout. :(

Well we are in the typical part of the negotiation where both sides ask for 300% more than they actually hope to get. Heaven forbid a union negotiations just start with a reasonable contract (looking at both sides).

The NBA thrives on personalities. This isn't really the case with the NFL. You can't have a system that doesn't reward maintaining continuity.

Everyone in pro sports is very very slowly wrapping their heads around the new world where teams don't triple in value in 10 years. They stay constant. The business is mature. I love that guys note about how every year of the contract must be the same. That way shitty GM's can't leverage the future.

Definitely agree about that. Would do wonders for the health of the league right there. I still think they need to figure out NOT having completely guaranteed contracts, which that guy touches upon. Guaranteed contracts are the #1 problem in my mind.
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Re: RealGM - CBA Idea 2 years 4 months ago #57340

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Great read. Agree with all of the ideas except for the very last point where a guy over 31 can sign a max contract with any team. That would defeat the purpose of freeing up cap room to sign a big free agent in the first place.
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Re: RealGM - CBA Idea 2 years 4 months ago #57358

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Meh. Some of his ideas are good, but to me it seems like he's making a lot of changes for minor improvement. Getting rid of guaranteed contracts would singlehandedly make a much bigger difference.
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Meh. Some of his ideas are good, but to me it seems like he's making a lot of changes for minor improvement. Getting rid of guaranteed contracts would singlehandedly make a much bigger difference.

And you think guaranteed contracts will be gone in the next season after this one?
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pants wrote:
roundhouse wrote:
Meh. Some of his ideas are good, but to me it seems like he's making a lot of changes for minor improvement. Getting rid of guaranteed contracts would singlehandedly make a much bigger difference.

And you think guaranteed contracts will be gone in the next season after this one?

If they were serious about making a healthy & profitable league. It's not even something that would have to be grandfathered in. Just make all contracts whatever % unguaranteed immediately.
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Re: RealGM - CBA Idea 2 years 4 months ago #57371

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roundhouse wrote:
pants wrote:
roundhouse wrote:
Meh. Some of his ideas are good, but to me it seems like he's making a lot of changes for minor improvement. Getting rid of guaranteed contracts would singlehandedly make a much bigger difference.

And you think guaranteed contracts will be gone in the next season after this one?

If they were serious about making a healthy & profitable league. It's not even something that would have to be grandfathered in. Just make all contracts whatever % unguaranteed immediately.

It probably won't happen, but like Roundhouse said, if they were serious about this, getting rid of guaranteed contracts would almost single handily fix the entire league immediately.
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