I guess start it off with this:

Team-By-Team Trade Outlook


Here's what they have for the TWolves:

Devin for Andre from RealGM

The Blazers and Nets are in discussions about an exchanged centered around Andre Miller for Devin Harris.

Travis Outlaw and Anthony Morrow have been discussed as possible players going to Portland, while Rudy Fernandez and Joel Przybilla could be moved to New Jersey.


No reports ever on Andre Miller being a bad guy. Yet...
1. Andre goes to a new team
2. Andre preforms
3. The team wins games
4. Team can't bare to have him on the roster
--repeat.

pants wrote:
Definitely very intriguing...

pants wrote:
Miller is one of those guys where if you read between the lines, he's a total a-hole to have as a teammate. Made Brandon Roy, one of the "shut your mouth and perform" character guys, start whining about his touches... Just. Please, Kahn, no.

The Knicks have made what was described as their final trade proposal for Carmelo Anthony Sunday, pushing the months-long drama toward its merciful conclusion, CBSSports.com has learned. The Knicks would send three starters -- Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, and Raymond Felton -- to Denver for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams and Anthony Carter, sources said Sunday. The Nuggets would get the Knicks' first-round pick in 2014, while Minnesota would get Eddy Curry's expiring contract and Anthony Randolph from New York. Curry would then be waived, and the Knicks would send as much as $3 million to Minnesota to pay his freight. CBSSports.com

The Wolves also would send Corey Brewer to Denver in the proposed deal. Carter must approve the trade and waive his Bird rights for the trade to be approved. Confident that a Friday night meeting between Anthony, his representatives, and a Nets contingent led by Russian owner Mikhail Prokhorov and hip-hop mogul Jay-Z did not result in a commitment from Anthony to sign an extension with New Jersey, the Knicks are drawing the line. They are not offering rookie Landry Fields or Russian center Timofey Mozgov, two pieces Denver has asked for at various times in the negotiations, sources said. CBSSports.com

Same shit different day

cycosurgeon wrote:
And every trade scenario still leaves the poor Wolves 50 cents short of a quarter and pinching every penny.

so we get Anthony Randolph for a 1st round pick and Corey Brewer? Sorry if we make that trade Kahn needs to be fired as soon as he gives the go ahead on that trade. Knicks don't want the guy why should we give up a first rounder and brewer to help them get Anthony while we get bent over?

Ladies and Gentleman your Minnesota Timberwolves!!

Why would we ever do that terrible trade? WTF? We lose money on Curry, and give up Brewer, AND a pick!?! The Knicks don't even want Randolph. He never plays! And we would help them get Melo.

So stupid.

Alright, well, ok. First of all - Anthony Randolph is intruiging and I'd love to have him, but this scenario is Kahn boobery defined.

There have been many scenarios thrown out but no matter what, we should be getting more. It's basic leveraging, and basic economics by way of percievable value. Everything has a price and the Wolves just pay too much here. The Knicks should be giving us some more comp for sacraficing our trade deadline cap space to take on an $11 million expiring whether we pay it or not...so THEY CAN ACQUIRE CARMELO ANTHONY and become a post Boston east power house rivaling Miami for the next 7 years. I mean, seriously. The Wolves should be recieving gifts for this far beyond the level of when we received a first rounder and Rodney Carney for NOTHING in order for Philly to get far enoughunder the cap to sign Elton Brand. (Fun Fact - another McHale driven trade - that deal is what ended up turning into Martell Webster).

All about valuing your assets, and the ability to absorb contracts and send out a pick so a team can solidy their team into contention is DEFINATELY an asset....I mean, just wow.

Exactly why Kahn is horrible.

I will reserve further thought until the trade goes down...but I will absolutely expect the worst.

This makes the Big Al trade: Al for Randolph, Eddy Curry, Koufos, a 1st round pick... and the construction of the Knicks contending roster. Nice!

Yep WW, that about sums this trade up.

Not to say AR wont be another unique prospect to watch, (as if we need any more) but I mean....this is why Kahn is so bad. Big picture. He is getting fleeced by his former "mentor." No way that is a coincidence.

These teams should be hoping and praying that we will be a team willing to help them complete this trade.

Instead we are giving up legitimate assets for a player that is intriguing, but doesn't play AT ALL, EVER.

Oh, and we have to take Curry off the Knicks hands.

Someone please tell me how that makes any sense? What happened to trading a first round pick for Randolph that was rumored for weeks? I would do that. Instead, we have to add in Brewer AND take Curry.

Preposterous.

Yes yes and yes

Im guessing we just end up giving the 1st, which is what I was seeing a lot on Twitter earlier tonight; in which case, in a vacuum the trade is not all that bad. BUT....it's the fact that Melo is involved in a 2nd deal. Suddenly this gets a LOT more interesting, and any solid GM would be working to pry more from NY, given that they want Melo MORE than THREE of their (quite solid, too) starters COMBINED. This gives us leverage to push. As in we should get Gallinari or Chandler and I'm not even remotely trying to be a homer. Not to borrow a Management 101 analogy but Kahn is looking at the trees and not the forest. He does this often, and thus, is horrible.

The only devils advocate remark I'll make is maybe we are overrating the Wolves being "crucial" to completing the trade. Could be.

More likely: no other team is stupid enough to help New York like that for so little in return. What a joke.

WallyWorld wrote:
Maybe you are right about that, but I don't see any other teams lining up to take Eddy Curry off their hands for Anthony Randolph.

We actually ARE crucial to this, because only 4 teams can absorb Curry's deal without giving anything significant back. The Wolves and Sacto have the cap space. Cleveland and Toronto have their huge trade exceptions from the Bosh/LBJ trades.

So yeah, it's a disgrace we wouldn't get more in this for helping this trade finally go down.

The same media that tells us Rubio hates MN and wants to be traded to NY for a pile of sh*t is telling us this is legit...and you all are pissed. Chill out. Until it happens, Kahn hasn't done anything wrong.